Loma is much more attack minded then Mayweather

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It's a great accomplishment that should be commended but irrelevant when discussing the pro career. I'm a fan of pro boxing more so than the amateur game. I couldn't really careless what a guy does as an amateur when compared to what he does as a pro. You have great pro fighters that were average or never fought as an amateur and that's what counts more to me.
     
  2. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teofilo was a great amateur and that's all that can be said. He is not an ATG and is not listed anywhere or talked about as being an ATG. Amatuer career is a good thing to have but quite frankly, you never have to fight amateur to start a pro career. When it comes to actual boxing and amassing a record for the books. Pro is all that counts. That's a fact. Even though Stallone was just a movie it dealt with pro boxing, Lederman deals with pro boxing. It all about pros when you get through talking.
     
  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It's not a fact. This is you citing a very subjective personal preference.

    Boxing has two branches, amateurs and pros. Fact.
    They are different constructs but both are 'boxing'. Fact.
    Amateur boxers are boxers. Fact.
    ATG pro boxers are ATG boxers. Fact.
    ATG amateur boxers are ATG boxers. Fact.
    You can be an awful amateur and be an ATG pro. Fact.
    You can be a great amateur and be an awful pro. Fact.

    Double standards.

    Amassing a pro record is for the PRO books. There are amateur history books as well. When we say Teofilo is an ATG boxer, we are saying he is an ATG boxer (who is an amateur, and amateur boxing IS boxing).
    Pro history books is boxing history books. Amateur history books is boxing history books.
     
  4. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not fair comparison as Loma is a hungry fighter and Floyd is a thirsty fighter. A rejuvenated IV Mayweather would put Loma in a Coma.
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    The AMs don't mean **** here **** boy once you're in the pros. With the headgear off the AM's only tell your pedigree, not certainty clown.:nut
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yes, it means nothing to you because you're a pro boxing fan, but it means a lot to people who understand amateurs. Besides, there are no headgears in amateurs anymore but you obviously didn't know that.

    I'm right and you're wrong. Honestly, like always. I don't simply comment, I TELL. You read and meditate on it.
     
  7. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are steadily trying to the connect the two in an attempt to justify your statement that an amateur record is relevant at a professional level and should be recognized on a professionals win loss record. That's not gonna happen because it's a totally different venue. You can say that Teofilo is an ATG amateur but it don't carry no weight in the pros. You can have all the amateur history books you want but it's what a fighter does in the pros that is what counts. The pros is where you build your legacy. Yeah, it's all boxing but it's not pro boxing and that's why you can't lump the two together.
     
  8. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Loma lost in the pros in his 2nd fight after winning how many in the amateurs? I acknowledge Loma is special and likely the best technician right now considering Floyd is old and Rigo is just too inactive. But, Loma KOing Martinez doesn't make Loma an ATG.
     
  9. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma was in the ring with light hitting and predictable Martinez. With that said, most fighters are aggressive with him because he is an easy target. As much as I like Loma I seriously doubt he would be that aggressive with a fighter who's skills and power demanded respect.
     
  10. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm certainly not making the claim that amateur record is relevant at professional level, rather I'm saying the opposite and showing why amateur boxing is...boxing. ATG amateurs are ATG boxers.
    I just simply combined win-losses to create a formal 'boxing record' just for recreational purposes. Mayweather being 84-8 does mean he has 8 losses in boxing (Not the professional branch, but in boxing, he has 8 losses).

    The amateurs is where you build your boxing legacy in its own right. The pros is where you build your pro legacy. Try telling Julio Cesar La Cruz he's not a Great, and amateur boxing has no ATGs. It's complete double standards. One is not more legitimate than the other. The pros receiving more attention does not legitimise it and downgrade amateurs, too.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Lomachenko is a much better boxer than Void, he not only has speed, defense, but has much more power and this is just the inception!!!
     
  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Inception? Why don't you just use the begining?:think
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stfu lmao.You don't even get respect here. Once the AMs are over its over.
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Gannicus is was a decent poster, but his lomachenko ball sucking is worse than the golov****s/pac****s/*****s all combined.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone in his feeble mind who has a better stat than Floyd he **** rides. He won't strictly **** ride white boxers on my watch. Lol... Imma make him appreciate everyone or continue to take a **** on him like I always do.