Loma is undefeated P4P number 1.

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  1. Pimp C

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  2. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    I watched the round in slow motion so i've already seen all the punches you are claiming didn't land. Your time stamp at 2:40 in round 2, not only can you hear the punch land, but you can also see it land in slow motion. If you can't even recognise that as a landed punch there's no point bothering any further.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't need to address your "time stamps" i got better things to do with my time than to watch a round in slow motion because a troll on a boxing forum told me to.

    I watched the round again that's good enough and it was a clear Lopez round, he landed some nice body shots got some shots off that landed around the guard of Lomachenko. And he pressed the action was the aggressor as Lomachenko was circling around the ring doing absolutely nothing, and then Loma tried to steal the round in dying seconds which was nowhere enough.

    The stats were 11-5 in favour of Lopez none of the 3 judges scored the round for Lomachenko so that pretty much destroys your argument, and anything else you say in regards to what you "deem" irrelevant or relevant is just that "irrelevant". Not backed up by stats or any factual evidence other than "your opinion" which is safe to say to be taken with a grain of salt.

    How dumb are you seriously ?

    Again the fact you can't give me an example of any championship fight where a fighter won a decision averaging 13 punches thrown for half the fight is in my favour genius can't you work that out ? seriously you have 0 IQ it's actually laughable.

    What relevance is there ? none of the judges scored rounds 2 or 6 for Lomachenko. And he was outlanded by 22-12 combining both rounds.

    Lopez landed in double digits in both rounds Lomachenko landed in single digits hence Lopez won the round. You don't win rounds for throwing 13 and 11 punches which is what Lomachenko did in those rounds. Lopez was forcing the fight was the aggressor and was the only one doing the fighting it's not rocket science why Lopez won those rounds.


    Loma threw 13 punches and landed 5 in round 2 Lopez threw 35 punches and landed 11......

    So Lopez almost tripled Loma's output and out landed him by 2 to 1 not really hard to work out is it why Lopez won ?

    You're argument is ridiculous and so are you.

    And what argument have you made ? time stamps ? and that's your whole argument ? laughable.

    Yeah my dishonest opinion is held by matchsticks you got me there buddy, the fact that all my comments are based on facts and statistics absolutely shuts down you're ridiculous opinions.

    Here's the facts.......

    None of the judges scored rounds 2 and 6 for Lomachenko which you're arguing.

    Lopez out landed Lomachenko 22-12 combining rounds 2 and 6.

    No fighter in history has won a championship fight by decision averaging 13 punches thrown for half the fight.

    Yeah I would say I've completely absolutely dismantled you in this debate, and now I'm going to put you on ignore so i don't have to lose braincells reading anymore of your tripe.
     
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  4. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You wrote all this shite without saying anything LMAO. You literally have failed at answering my question and failed at understanding my response. Read it back again I’m not repeating myself
     
  5. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    Waiting for your take on how a punch which you can hear land, see land in slow motion, and which Bradley and Ward sat ringside both saw land, didn't actually land :meparto:
     
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  6. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    “Land anything of note” - I’ve said he rolls with the punch essentially with his body, which is what is meant by this. Not that there’s zero contact. Overextending yourself and managing to make some contact on a moving target is not “clean “ and certainly doesn’t make up for the four very clean head snapping shots Loma lands on Teo

    And also, talk about cherrypicking - you could perhaps pay attention to the whole bulk of punches that Lopez did not land which I’ve timestamped
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

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    This guy dont realise fights are not scored in slow motion and Judges have one chance to score the fight live.

    Loma made no impression in the first 6 rounds, and none of the judges were impressed with his abysmal output it's a simple as that.

    All this arguing over silly time stamps and 1 or 2 punches is irrelevant.

    How about let's just keep it simple and say Loma didn't do anywhere near enough, and when he made the fight competitive late on he lost a big 12th round which pretty much sealed the deal on any controversy.

    Lopez showed he wanted it more and was a deserving winner.
     
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  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Again - you've failed to objectively and comprehensively score the round. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about.

    Loma landed the cleaner, more frequent punches in this round. And I've evidenced it.
     
  9. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    LMAO - Lopez landed 11 punches in round 2....did he ****. You're actually using this as part of your argument.. This just tells me you haven't even bothered to watch the round because that is not accurate at all. Okay you're not even worth debating. But please do timestamp me those 11 landed punches? I'd really love to see that . If you can do that I will concede and own it as me being wrong. For some reason, I don't think you'll even try to start

    Someone else Banana you seem like you have some intelligence at least - Dynamicpuncher you've just pulled your own trousers down
     
  10. steviebruno

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    ... So we're going through the trouble of rewatching fights retroactively scoring rounds for guys who landed five punches in rounds...

    ... If he didn't do anything worthwhile on the first look, it isn't worth rewatching.
     
  11. tinman

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    It was a Lightweight fight too. These aren't some huge hulking heavyweights having a low output fight. 13 punches per round for a Lightweight Title fight is no acceptable. Loma got shutout the first half of the fight.
     
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  12. ipitythefool

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    There is a clear top 3 in P4P. Usyk, Crawford, Inoue.

    These guys don’t give the judges a choice.
     
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  13. Banana-Rama

    Banana-Rama Active Member Full Member

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    This is what you said:

    ''In the first minute Lopez does not land anything of note. This is where you’ve got to see where punches land because he’s not landing anything. In the first minute Lopez appears to land a right hand either in Lomas abdomen or elbow ..but Loma is retreating and actually curves his body outward before the punch lands - in essence rolling with the shot 2:40.''

    ''he's not landing anything'', ''appears to land a right hand but.....'' It's a cleanly landed punch, you can hear it land and see it land, therefore you were talking nonsense.
     
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  14. Banana-Rama

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    Agreed :thumbsup:
     
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  15. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I know what I said I quoted it..and I’ve said “rolling with the shot” which I’ve clarified and was what I meant. It landed yes but you’re calling out the most insignificant punch in the round which Loma rides with taking the impact of it away…whilst completely ignoring everything else of higher importance timestamped.


    Tell me do you believe that shot is cleaner than the first straight left Loma lands in that round?