Unfortunately they’ll always be someone waiting in the wings. Divide and conquer. I thought Eubank Jr was onto something with ITV; if he would’ve been willing to make short term sacrifices and try and get prime time sat night on itv2 with the view of moving onto itv1, he could’ve potentially opened up an alternative cash revenue stream in advertising and becoming a household name like his old man. Not that I blame him but he seemed to have the perfect package in looks, charisma, fighting style etc.
Its just Football in that sense on a lower scale Some crazy team willing to pay well over the odds to sign player X Like you say divide and conquer
British Boxing has always been a Monopoly or a Duopoly because 1-2 promoters control the TV dates. The mass audience is there, it has just moved to different platforms. KSI's video announcing the Logan Paul fight has 5 million views and Logan's has 3 million. That is more views than Coronation Street, Eastenders. and all the other soaps combined. It is keeping the attention of the mass audience and monetizing them at a scalable level which creates the difficulty, hence why you have two YouTubers parading as " Professional " boxers. The only reason boxers, on the whole, are being paid well now is because of the competition between promoters and the various media platforms. For a boxer to become a breakout star now, they really need to attract the attention of the mass audience themselves and put in the work on social media, like KSI and Logan Paul did. The top boxers need to put the content out themselves and stop giving it away for free to IFL and its clones , that way the audiences attention stays with the fighter not the outlet source.
The promoters work for the fighters. Their job is to make them as much money as possible (which in turn makes them more money). Your comment is as daft as saying football agents should tell players that they should earn maximum 10k a week.
Did promoters "work" for the boxers in the 50s 60s and so on? Promoters was always the boss, agents should be different on paper Somewhere this millennium tables turned And good for them Sucks for us If you think my thoughts are daft, thats cool Its all about opinions here and i like it here due to that However we lose out under the current format Same with football Season tickets continue to rise most years despite the product for most teams staying the same Why? The pros demands need to be met or another team will pay up Now if there was a salary cap, would they go play Snooker? Thats the point im making They wouldn't, they would carry on playing the sports that would lets say pay them 20 grand per week
I think the argument is looking more to the long term. PPV can bring in a huge amount of money, but it is only for a very tiny minority of boxers. It is also hit and miss as it requires the boxer to have certain out of ring intangibles that can attract the media's and publics attention. It has also lead to a decrease in followers of the sport. The vast majority of fighters either net a loss for their promoter, or give the promoter very little in return. It is the 'stars' who make or break a promoter, particularly at the top level. Boxers are in it for the short term, so it is in the interest of the fighters to pursue PPV. However, promoters are in the game for the long haul, so forgoing PPV and raising the profile of the sport by having all fights on non PPV Sky/BT, and even some lesser fights on terrestrial TV, could potentially lead to increase profits due to an increase in the popularity of the sport. Maybe an Anthony Joshua / Canelo type of star couldn't earn as much money without PPV, but if far more people ended up watching boxing due to it being cheaper to access, then maybe a promoters income from all of his fighters will be greater as all of his fighters will now have (theoretically) a bigger fan base.
A decent PPV and probably exactly what they would have expected. My guess is Matchroom broke even or turned small £100-300k profit on the event.
Outside of a select few boxers who have promoted themselves, promoters have never worked for the boxers. Michael Watson went to court to prove the standard BBBoC contract was unenforceable on the basis it was in restraint of trade. Prior to this, the standard contract allowed for a promotor to jointly act as a manager, in effect the promotor was negotiating with himself on the boxer's behalf in his joint capacity as manager. The contract also allowed for multi-year extensions if certain conditions were met and entitlement to a share of boxers out of the ring earnings. Prior to TV, the promotors had exclusive arrangements with the larger venues, the board also operated a policy that called for 14 days between major promotions. Therefore if you were not signed to the big promotor of the day you were restricted to small hall shows as all the dates were booked in advance. Today you have trainers acting in a management capacity for boxers and promotors have exclusive contracts with the TV broadcasters which are both clear conflicts of interest. Eventually, the PPV stars will become their own broadcasters and streaming service, the Premier League is already looking to move in this direction.
But if Eddie says no PPV, Frank will offer all the fighters PPV. If they both team up and say no PPV then someone else will come along. The fighters don't and shouldn't care about anyone else's income, they are ones putting their body on the line and paying for their camp. A non PPV card on Sky brings in roughly £400k which isn't much for all the boxers and their expenses. So it only takes around 50,000 buys to break through that even if Sky contribute zero. I doubt that non terrestrial can generate much income these days either. It's not the era of four channels and your gran tuning in to watch Bruno anymore. Either pay it or don't pay it but don't moan about the fighters wanting to maximise their income.
Yes - because it’s the non casual who suffers. The casual can buy into the razzmatazz of Joshua / Fury event & split the cost with a few mates. While the hardcore fan is bled dry.
