Loma v Manny`s opposition how well would he have done?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma against Manny`s world title opponents at the weight Manny fought them at that time how would Loma fare? Even at the higher weights, maybe leaving out the Antonio M. fight.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma loses all of the ones above LW. Can’t see him dealing with Hattons hugging and pressure when he couldn’t deal with salido, or maybe he outboxes him. Guys at WW+ would be too heavy. Maybe he could beat mathysee or mathysee knocks him out.

    Loma probably beats JMM, Loma vs Morales is a good one but Loma probably wins, and Loma beats the rest of the guys at 130-135.
     
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  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman Active Member Full Member

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    Pac KOs everyone on Lomachenko's resume.

    Lomachenko loses by KO to most of Pac's resume.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surely you mean above lightweight!
     
  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman Active Member Full Member

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    Even below. JMM, Morales, and Barrera are certified ATGs. Lomachenko's never fought anyone close to the caliber of them.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma is more skilled than Barrera or Morales were, Barrera wasn`t fighting well at all in his first fight v Manny and in the second he would have been too past it to beat this prime Loma who would have defeated Khan at lightweight, instead of being dominated like Barrera was at that stage of his career.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

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    vs. Marquez, 0-4
    vs. Morales, 2-1/1-2
    vs. Barrera, 1-1/0-2
    vs. Bradley, 0-3

    Above LW the only guys I could possibly name are Rios, Margarito, Oscar, Algieri, Broner. Actually more than I thought but all the opposition worth anything above LW, hell no.
     
  8. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman Active Member Full Member

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    Lomachenko's resume is weak aside from a faded Linares and Rigondeaux who also only beat one great opponent in Donaire. Gary Russell was a decent win, but he hasn't fought a guy with a pulse since Lomachenko.
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Under LW, I think Loma would have very hard times with Marquez and Morales. (Think he out duels Barrera though).

    Above LW I think he'd have a very hard time with everyone except Broner, Rios and Bradley (all smallish guys that moved up as well). Everyone else the size disparity is too much. Loma is far better than most of the guys he'd lose to, but Pac took on some freakishly big guys.
     
  10. Pakkuman

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    Broner's 160+ on the night and has lightning fast handspeed and above average pop (only guy to drop Porter). He's hard to hit clean and durable as hell. I wouldn't be surprised if he smashed Lomachenko.

    Lomachenko-Rios would look like Pac-Rios, minus the firepower. Wouldn't be shocked if Rios caught and KO'd Lomachenko.

    Bradley is a tough as nails competitor and he basically cleaned out a hot 140 division—a real dog. I think he beats Lomachenko. Remember, only one man has beaten Bradley.
     
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    He has the style to maybe beat Barrera and Marquez. He loses to Morales etc.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails Full Member

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    Have you heard of 'Styles make Fights'?
     
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    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley is very tough, but he doesn't hold a size, speed, skill etc... advantage over Loma. He was out-maneuvered by Pac, and Loma is a master at out maneuvering opponents, also his defense is superior to Bradley. Bradley also gets sloppy and comes face forward sometimes. He'd be countered into oblivion by Loma.

    Broner is fast with single shots and is a real hitter, he doesn't throw enough to trouble Lomachenko. He's content to keep it hands at home. And he doesn't move. Loma would pepper him all night. He'd lose a very wide decision.

    No. Just no.
     
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  14. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol you guys discussing fights at 140-147lbs. Ha, how would Manny do against Carl Froch's resume??

    All that is relevant is Loma goes undefeated against Pac's resume from 126-135lbs.

    Barrera and Morales would simply outclassed. Far too linear.

    Marquez is perhaps the easiest because he fights off the backfoot and cannot handle angles. Bradley had his way with Roidquez.....that gives me 0.0% confidence that non-juiced 126-130lbs Marquez gives much resistance at all to The Matrix.
     
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  15. Zhuge Liang

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    Just like several above posters said, I agree that Loma would win against all of Pac's opponent below 140.

    The hardest is probably Pacquiao himself in his 135 version. That's the most ferocious version of Pacquiao I've seen though not the best one (IMHO the best ones are against Cotto and De La Hoya).

    The second is probably JMM. But I think he won't stand a chance against Loma. He even lost against Chris John.

    Boxer of the past I dreamed to fight Loma is Naseem Hamed. Must be an interesting fight.
     
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