++Lomachenko/Gamboa and Salido/Miura++

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IsaL, Aug 27, 2016.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So you're saying Loma is ducking Salido for the guy who beat and almost KO'd Salido and almost KO'd Crawford? Okay:lol:
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    It it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

    Neither of those guys have a W over Loma :deal
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I don't get why anti-Salido pro-Loma fans knock Salido having two razor close fights with Martinez and one with Vargas, saying that he is 0-3 in his last three fights, but then make the case that Loma should have won their fight when it was just as close. It seems like they are giving Loma the benefit of the doubt and saying he should have won any close fight, but saying the opposite about Salido, saying he should have lost every close fight.

    Personally, I think that Loma had figured out Salido by the end of their first match and was coming on; so he'll pick up where he left off in the sequel and KO Salido late. It also doesn't hurt that Loma is in his prime whereas Salido is old and banged up by his last four fights being non-stop fight of the year worthy wars. That's not even counting all the damage he took earlier in his career.

    The big difference between the two, which I don't hear talked about enough is how much more entertaining a fighter Salido is than Lomachenko. He's given fans at least half a dozen amazing fights and deserves to be rewarded for them win lose or draw. Salido's as entertaining as Lomachenko is talented and both virtues ought to be rewarded.

    Then when you consider the caliber of opponents that Salido has faced over the years, there aren't many who've faced superior opposition (Cotto, Donaire, Pacquiao, Jones Jr, Canelo). Salido's faced JM Marquez, Mikey Garcia, JM Lopez, Vasyl Lomachenko, Gamboa, Guerrero, Martinez the baddest dudes in his division and he's probably never seen a 500k purse. Shouldn't his willingness to fight all comers be rewarded even if he weren't insanely entertaining? That alone ought to be worth a payday.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    No worse than the scorecards of the British fans on boxnation. The British are the worst at this. In the case of the Mexicans, I can even think of a recent example in which they scored against their countryman Canelo v Cotto.
     
  5. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Considering this thread I feel like you're talking about me for the most part. Salido being 0-3 in his last three fights is a fact taken into account by promoters and networks when trying to guess public interest and purse amounts. Their goal is to make money and recent fights of each fighter is one of the most common and telling variables to determine that. As for giving Loma a pass... Pointing out Salido's past 3 fights has nothing to do with my opinion on the matter. I'm not the one paying Salido so I haven't given my opinion on it. Lomachenko's fight with Salido was mentioned in regards to whether or not Lomachenko's camp thinks he can beat Salido or not. It's entirely separate matter as it relates to team confidence rather than financial guessing by promoters.

    I haven't read anyone actually condemning Salido while giving Loma a pass, at least in this thread. I'm going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you skimmed over the first page without getting the gist of the discussion. Most people here are fans of both fighters after all.
     
  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come on now. You of all people should not be complaining about others' "skewed scorecards":lol:
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: :yep
     
  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    ^Oof, some truth right there.:lol:
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Still sore about LSC getting shut out by The Jackal I see.:yep
     
  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Almost ko'd crawford? Not even close. And Gamboa is getting older, didn't look too good in last fight, and has been incredibly inactive. Not saynig Loma is ducking Salido(I think Loma wants this fight badly), but the reason the rematch is not happening is definitely on his team.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Shut out? Don't you get tired of trolling?
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a shut out but a clear win, please dont tell me you had LSC winning.
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Me saying I think LSC won is less far fetched than claiming it was a shut-out.

    With that said I thought the Jackal won a close but what I also thought was a clear fight.
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why didn't Frampton and Rigondeaux fight anyway?:huh
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure, but fighters need to understand that its the casuals who keep the sport alive and they need to try their best to figure out how to use their style to appease them. Rigondeaux blew it for himself. He had so much potential to be a little big man and make money.