Lomachenko is just too good

Glad you made this post. It highlights the hypocrisy. Loma's sized played a big part in how the fight played out.

 

Well a skilled bigger guy should win against a small,skilled guy,that goes without saying.
This would explain why Lomo was loathe to take much credit after the fight.
Can't see why you think I'm a hypocrite though?I don't remember Rigo ever getting hurt or leaned on by the bigger man.

 

Lomachenko seems like he has the talent to be #1, but he is matched like he is in protective custody, which in my opinion, is holding him back from greatness. He left two divisions that had decent opponents to fight, to move to a division where his last three opponents were Pedraza, Crolla, and now Campbell. That is some murderers row now isn't it. And he had tought nights against Pedraza(Tank's son), and Campbell(Linares' leftovers) It's not a good look. Then he's talking of moving back down, which really means, he doesn't want any part of Haney, and doesn't have the confidence to move up to face tougher challenges.

 

I agree with that. Credit to Loma, he said before hand that Rigondeaux was old, and too small. Rigondeaux fans, myself included, didn't know how aged, or slow Rigondeaux would be, we figured he just needed to be motivated by a top level opponent, and it turned out, that it just wasn't his night.

Hypocrite because Loma fans always cite size as a reason, when Loma had tought fights with Linares, Pedraza, and now Campbell, but they then turn around and say, Size 5'7 to around 5'3.5, and reach 22 inches to 21 inches didn't play a factor in how his fight with Rigondeaux played out. If you aren't one of those people, then I shouldn't generalize you.

 

Lomachenko is great. Easily P4P #1-3.

My only issue with him is that he avoided the biggest threat at 130.

 

Come on, you know what happened. The only real fighter Loma didn’t face at 130 was Berchelt, who managed to be “busy” every time Loma was able to fight. He wanted no part of Loma. Same for Tank, a guy who really likes to fight little guys moving up and no hopers. We get it, he fought Pedrazza but that was the last and probably only decent opponent he has fought. How long ago was that fight?

Loma moved up, I believe at least, because there were bigger names and bigger challenges at 135. He fought the best lightweight not named Mikey a Garcia in his first fight, Linares, with no tuneup and has fought top ranked challengers consistently. People like you make a big deal out of the Pedrazza fight, but you fail to mention it was Loma’s first fight back from major shoulder surgery and he was unable to throw his right hook or uppercut. He still dominated Pedrazza and nearly had him out of there with a limited arsenal.

If Tank’s team ever musters up the courage to actually fight Loma, in the ring and not on Twitter, I hope all of the haters don’t get amnesia. I suspect Loma will give Tank a boxing lesson before Tank goes back to fighting no-hopers and Uber drivers in Baltimore.

 

Please dude, do you really believe that Devin Haney has a snowball's chance in hell against Vasily Lomachenko??? If he wins 3rds it's a moral victory.

PBC is never ever making that fight. He'll be matched against cans for another two years (fighting once or twice per year). Right now he couldnt beat Cambell.

Loma is cleaning up Comney/Lopez and then heading back down to Tank's division. We both know Floyd is not making that fight. Berchelt will happen and that is solid.

Loma is never going to 140 , nor should he.

 

Very well put and spot on. The guy who beats Loma will have to be bigger than him. Hes not going to get outfoxed. He is beatable I believe at 135 due to size and potentially power disparity.

He is a master boxer but hes a little guy. Hes pushing it at 135.

 

Of course size matters in boxing. That's why there are weight classes. I have huge respect for Mayweather's boxing ability but he was not going to be a great middleweight as he would be giving up too much natural size.

Loma is a great technical boxer. Probably one of the best technical boxers ever. He doesnt out physical or overpower people though. He does not have the frame to grow into the larger weight classes. He just doesn't. That should not take away from his technical mastery though.

I personally believe he should unify and then go back down in weight. He is more effective and will have a longer career at the lighter weights.

 

I gave rigo a chance till I saw the face to face and rigo was a foot shorter than Loma lol he still needs to step his game up and Manny is the way to do it

 

Lightweight Pac was a force of nature. His speed and power were amazing. He can be out boxed though. We saw it against Mayweather, and Marquez.

Mayweather negated Mannys offense through effective and masterful boxing. Marquez took advantage of flaws or tendencies in Mannys game that left him open to effective counters.

I respect Manny, hes great to watch because he comes to fight. He is not unbeatable though. He can be (not easily) be outboxed.

 

at the pro level

 

He said the other week he's been boxing since he was 4 years old and these guys want to make out he's some novice

 

This is exactlly right. Who beats Loma at featherweight? Go back as far as you want. Who beats him at featherweight.?

Judt calling it the way I see it.

I hugely respect Mayweather for his defensive ability a d what he accomplished.

I hugley respect Pac for his offensive a ability and what he a accomplished.

In the same way, I respect Loma for the technical mastery that he brings to the game.

 

Fair enough but can you concede the Salido loss might have had a little bit to do with his inexperience as a pro? The tactics employed by Salido would not be allowed at the amateur level. Watching the fight, I saw an inexperienced but talented Loma coming to grip too late with the fouling machine that was Salido.

My point is the pro game is a little different. There have been many good amateurs who never were able to transition to the pro ranks.