Lomachenko keeping it real - 1 belt doesn't mean you're a world champion .

I'm glad you agree. You're learning.

 

there are 5 belts, arent you just beating the top 4 fighters in your division? so unless you become undisputed, you did not beat the best 4 fighters in your division. a world title by itself just means you have a small claim to being the best fighter in that division. some claims are bigger than others. canelo and taylor silenced all claims.

 

It's been a long day my apologies for not reading between the lines and falling into your evil strategem.

I would also reduce the weight divisions. Keep the original 8 and add 2 near the top to distribute the weight discrepancy more evenly.

 

No worries.

I'd go back to the original 8 and same day weigh in tbh.

 

Agree about the weigh ins. May need some safegaurd to prevent rehydration.

Maybe weigh in before getting in the ring with a 1-2% tolerance.

If you weigh in say in the morning that might still pose a risk of fighters still trying to rehydrate a large amount but just reducing the time frame creating greater health risks.

At least that way you not getting fighters coming in 2-3 weight divisions heavier.

 

I say weigh in before the ring walk. On camera so everyone knows it's two men of equal weight competing.

Current rehydration is an absolute joke.

 

If belts don't mean your a champion that puts lomas legacy straight in the **** hole because his quick collecting of belts is exactly what its built on

 

Completely agree. It bugs me when people do hypothetical fights without taking it into account. Canelo for instance at 160 lbs was probabliy 175+lbs so why not match him against Ezzard Charles. Archie Moore or Sam Langford?

He would get the crap beaten out of him that's why.

 

Loma and Usyk got it right- unified and undisputed world champion. All the various belts do is cheapen the accomplishment of achieving just one.

 

He's telling the truth while living in reality.

 

just a thought, i agree that smw is at its weakest. But it seems like you are belittling canelo's undisputed status at 168. If it was so easy how come nobody else was doing it? To summarize, i agree that its weak but i do not agree that one should borderling discount his status just because of a weak division.

 

Look it is an achievement but we have to look at context.

Smith-drained really a LH only beat a broken Groves with a shoulder injury.

Saunders-Middleweight and rarely trained at his own weight despite being skilled. was very average at Super Middle.

Plant-Hadn't fought anyone of note.

There was another guy but I can't even be bothered to Google his name....because I know he was worthless...

Now if we are talking about doing something that should be truly admired and respected why didn't he stay at Light Heavy after beating Kovalev????????

No one else could do it because the division was that weak. Why didn't anyone do it before then? Eh the division was a lot stronger and only a big star like Canelo could circumnavigate the politics to make it happen.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh but it seems to me that they're too many Canelo nut huggers and I'm trying to balance out the BS.

I joined this site many years ago but stopped using it because of the constant spamming of Floyd/Pacman/Klit fanboys just posting the same crap all the time. It appears that has died down a little and there's less idiots to deal with. I'm not a fanboy I just love the sport.

 

Missed Loma being in the spotlight. True champion. Hope he goes on another run after his sensational performance last fight.

 

dont get me wrong, i agree with the context and that if you look under the hood, those wins were practically listed in his W column the moment the fight was agreed. But i also think there is some harshness to this reality. At the end of the day going undisputed is the goal, and for one to be achieve that and then belittled for achieving it runs counter to the sentiment.

To piggy back on your statement, yes the 3 champions he faced were not world beaters, dont bother with yldirim since he was just a mandatory. But the fact remains, in an era where champions (big names or not) duck each other to preserve their records or to protect their belt, we should give credit to someone who fought and beat 3 legitimate champions in a space of 11 months. And thats on top of being unified at 160, surely jacobs and GGG (pls dont get into if he won or not, that is not my point) are legitimate champions.

My point is, there is credit that is due to what Canelo did. I wouldnt say to what he is doing. I do agree he should be unifying or at least fighting at 175 first. He also should have gone for undisputed at 160, that would have been legacy defining. I really do share most of your sentiments. I just find it hard to digest that because he dominated a weak division he should be discredited or the achievement should be one with an asterisk.