Lomachenko likely to face Ray Beltran at 135

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Where did you hear both of these?
    ESPN Desportes is our source for B grade Beltran...haven't heard anything on Salido in autumn.
     
  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I don't remember the first fight tbh lol.
    I had Salido edging Vargas but I call it a draw because it was an ultimately even fight. Salido and Miura beat the prime from Vargas, he should've taken a longer break, and Berchelt is better at boxing than both, it was a tough draw for Vargas.
    Salido is a cerebral fighter, he'll be just fine.
     
  3. ellerbe

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    Exactly. You just exposed your own bias for Lomachenko. I can't take a debate with you seriously. Miura did far more damage to Vargas than Salido. How Vargas pulled that off is legendary. Vargas/Miura ended each others career. Berchelt just destroyed Vargas and now he's going to destory Miura.

    Salido is 36, lost against bum ass Martinez, got robbed, lost a close fight(in my books) against a guy who was coming off one of the most brutal wars in our era, and then just got floored by some bum. Just be honest. You just want to credit Loma for a fight he lost. To me this fight is pointless and past it's due date. Salido did not want to rematch Lomachenko when Loma could have got his proper credit. I'd rather see him fight the champions at 135. I've said this way before Salido/Loma were even in talks btw.
     
  4. Gannicus

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    Why are you crying for? I genuinely forgot, I thought they were both robberies, I know the second one definitely was, too.
    Yes, two gruelling fights back to back will obviously weaken Vargas. One gruelling fight won't do it, but the accumulation of both, will. If Vargas takes a long vacation, he could possibly get back to his best.
    Berchelt is a good fighter, but Loma would handle Berchelt and stop him.
    Styles make fights, Martinez is a consistent title holder and Salido beat him in the rematch - get over it. Moreover, your books are worthless - it was an ultimately even fight that I've watched 6 times. I may be a major Loma fan but I've shown I'm not a racist nuthugger and I am also Loma's biggest critic. Everyone was saying how great he looked against Russell Jr and Ramirez and Gamalier Rodriguez...I thought he looked pretty **** for him, for a sizeable portion of all three fights. I foretold that Loma can have a very, very tough time vs Salido if he didn't sort his pacing strategy out (low blows aside, this was ultimately why Loma lost).
    It's not pointless because Salido is still at the top and is a major stylistic threat to Loma. I want to see it because I want to see Loma handling such threats. Someone like Mikey Garcia would be an KO for Loma, a fight in which Loma will learn nothing from.
    I'd much rather he cleans up at 130 because they're good fighters (Berchelt, Corrales, Davis) rather than venture into what would be the equivalent of Crawford fighting at 154 right NOW without growing into the weight. Loma can make 126 with EASE. If not, screw it, put him in at 135 but he's getting much bigger props for beating those guys than someone who is naturally their size or bigger.
     
  5. ellerbe

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    "Why are you crying".

    Goes on to write an essay. :risas3: Didn't bother reading it. Go back to calling robberies on fights you don't remember.
     
  6. Gannicus

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    You're not fooling anyone, I know you read it and you are crying, you seem pretty animated. I'm just trying to be informative that's all.
     
  7. ellerbe

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    Sure. Believe what you want. That was way too long for me to bother to read from a guy that just called a robbery on a fight they don't remember. If you kept it to a paragraph I would've read it.
     
  8. Gannicus

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    Press scores had it for Salido, too from what I remembered. Why are you still crying? You're still replying lol.
     
  9. tinman

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    Starting to think winning that 2nd Gold Medal was a waste of time for Loma. He already had a Gold. He should have turned pro. He would of had 4 more years to build up his fanbase and earning power. Now he's 29 and can't get anyone in the ring with him.
     
  10. You've Got Male

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    Oh, snap! Great fight! Ray is juiced.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Am I not allowed to respond? Responding=crying? If you don't want me to respond don't start talking to me first you weirdo. Do you have a link to back that claim up. You seem really upset that I didn't bother reading something that took you a while to type up :risas3:.
     
  12. wifly

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    I heard that from a reliable source on twitter, anyways Beltran s fight is off according to him
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    Beltran says that the fight is off because Loma team didnt want it. He says that he offered a catchweight at 133 but they dont even wanted it, then calls Lomachenko a diva LOL...
     
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  13. Gannicus

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    This just registers as more tears. There, there.
    Edit - there were so many from around that time by boxing press on twitter who scored it all round by round, I can only show you a few here tbh:
    http://mmadecisions.com/decision/6439/Orlando-Salido-vs-Roman-Martinez
     
  14. You've Got Male

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    Bro, you're crazy. I think Garcia destroys Loma
     
  15. ellerbe

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    You going to write another essay? :risas3: