Lost? In my opinion Castillo beat Floyd more convincingly , than Salido “beat” Loma, but I never said Foyd wasn’t p4p #1. I think Loma has better resume than Crawford and that’s a matter of opinion who is P4P #1.
We can assume, but we don’t know for sure until he weighs in. He said earlier in 2017 before the Rigo fight was in scope that he needed to beat another 130 lb world champion before he would consider himself p4p #1. Instead...he beat a p4p world undefeated world champion who fighters from 122 to 130 avoided like the plague and completely dominated him to the point Rigo quit. You could be right....he may still feel Crawford is #1....but he could very well be valuing his performance higher than the win.
Honestly, them quitting isn't Loma's fault, but using wins where the opponents didn't even try to win before quitting, doesn't really do much for a pound for pound argument. It's not like Loma was beating the **** out of Walters, or Rigondeaux. Had Walters and Rigondeaux gave honest efforts, and made Loma work for 12 rounds, it would have done more for his resume. On the other hand, neither Walters or Rigondeaux had established themselves as top of the line 130 pounders either. Walters got a deserved draw against Sosa, and did nothing else but sit on the shelf. He's still seemingly grounded by Arum. Rigondeaux had no fights at 130, is 37, and moved up two weight classes to fight a man three or four inches taller, and more massive. Loma was right, that fight did nothing for him. Loma does need to up his competition. It's not his fault, but Walters was sat on the shelf as punishment, and then brought off the shelf after 11 months broke, and needing money. He was a perfect showcase fight. That wasn't the best version of Walters in that ring. That was a Walters that was already broke mentally by whatever ****ed up contract he signed with Arum. When people say Loma needs to step it up, they aren't wrong. Fight Berchelt. Davis will be a nice fight down the line. Move up and fight Mikey, or Easter. Loma is the type of talent that you want to see challenged. Moving smaller men up from lower weight divisions to fight him, isn't the way to showcase that talent and push him.
He fought a guy coming off a loss and from a lower weight class, he then fights a guy 2 weight classes below him. That’s not indicative of the P4P best fighter in my opinion and I’m a Loma fan.
I disagree with your assessment that a fighter quitting does nothing for the winner’s P4P. I don’t know how old you are or how long you’ve followed the sport, but if you truly feel that way, I’m sure you never thought Tyson was the baddest man on the planet or Roy Jones was top of the entire boxing food chain. This is not a rhetorical statement. I really would like a yes or no answer from you. I agree that Loma should fight Berchelt. I also think Berchelt will not avoid the fight. Here’s another non-rhetorical question for you. Why do you think Davis is a good fight for Loma “down the line” considering he already spanked Pedraza for a belt? If Davis wasn’t ready for all comers or lacked the ambition to unify the division, he shouldn’t have fought Pedraza. You know as well as I do why he did. He knew he could beat Pedraza and he thought he could cash in on the status of being the youngest “champion” in the sport. Now that he’s won a title and shown himself to lack professionalism (lost his title on the scale), he never mentions Loma. It’s always “down the line” or “in he future.” GTFOH Speaking of Davis. Considering he sounds borderline ******ed, has absolutely no charisma, has zero crossover appeal, and clearly wants nothing to do with Loma, I have just the opponent for him: Gary Russell Jr. In years past, think the Golden Ages of Boxing, this fight would be a natural. They’re both from the DMV area, they’re both naturally gifted, they’re both 130lb fighters, there’s a very nice casino (MGM Grand, Oxon Hill, MD) nearby to host the fight and draw the most fans, plus the winner stands to positively affect their regional following, which has historically proven effective at helping the live gate. Davis just wants soft touches and he’ll use his youth as a pass whenever the tough names come up. GRJ got boxed silly by Loma, but at least he tried for all 12 rounds and challenged himself. Loma doesn’t need to move up to fight Mikey or Easter. I have no problem with a fighter staying at their best weight, so long as they clean out the division. Don’t worry, Berchelt will fight Loma. My concern is whether or not Mikey will fight Easter before Easter moves up in weight. It seems Easter wants the fight more than Mikey. Size matters and Mikey knows it. This is why he talks about Loma, but goes radio silent on the 5’11” Easter. Looking forward to your response.
Loma really lost and Floyd didn't so what you think matters doesn't. Bad example. Bad lmao. And the rest of what you're saying is "I think".
Walters shouldn't have taken the fight. He was too inactive. And Loma needs to step up his comp if he is to one day be called the best pfp fighter.
A decade into their career? Lmao. Loma chose to up his comp early and lost. I don't even care that he lost. He didn't do the rematch so he will be judged. And if you're going to get props for beating guys with 11 fights or less then surely he can be judged by those fights. And making 4 fighters quit imo means that his comp is suspect.
In the opinion of the vast majority Floyd got BEAT by Castillo who came in at weight and played by the rules through the fight. Unlike Salido. Floyd also lost several times in the amateurs and failed on the biggest stage there. Eat **** ******
Like my mama used to say.... it ain't bragging if it's the truth! Loma needs to be P4P 1 after his all out assault of the dumbfounded Rigo! I feel this not only places him above Crawford, but puts separation between them until Crawford beats Thurman or Spence. Just an opinion of course!
Walters took the fight because he’s a fighter and he wanted/needed a good payday. Plus I’m sure he went into the fight thinking he would win. Who does Loma need to step up and face to make you happy? Besides being undefeated, for the time being, what has Bud done to put himself above Loma?
Absolutely disagree with Blizzy's logic RE the P4P debate here. All of Loma's career that he is being recognised for has come after the loss, so I don't really see that it holds much value here. Had the Salido loss happened like last year then I'd get it. All the same, if you have Crawford over Loma, then that's fine. I think so long as it's him, Loma or GGG (assuming you scored the Jacobs and Canelo fights his way) then there's nothing too contentious there really.
