Lomachenko should work on his aggression

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  1. JOKER

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  2. Manfred

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    Loma needs to work on his retirement speech.
     
  3. Baneofthegame

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    He needed to be more active after the first couple for sure, there’s a reason Lopez didn’t give him the rematch though, even with Lomachenkos busted shoulder.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

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    Whenever a fighter is out boxed you always get the if only they were more aggressive comment. If only Tito had been more aggressive vs Hopkins, if only Hopkins had been more aggressive vs Taylor etc.

    It's not about just throwing more punches, it's about what their opponent is doing to prevent that fighting from fighting their normal fight. Salido used rough house tactics to make Loma less aggressive, Lopez took away Loma's jab, that's why he wasn't able to fight like he usually does and apply the same pressure and volume we see against everyone else.
     
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  6. Surrix

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    Lopez effectively had fooled Loma.
    Looks that Loma undervalued and underestimated how disciplined Lopez is.
    Most likely he fooled himself: waiting until Lopez will lost discipline and patience and go for KO win.
    Lopez just continued to box, when Loma get what is real Lopez's gameplan, it was too late.


    I don't think that Loma will win rematch vs Lopez.
    Loma might pick some fights like vs Nakatani and still get good paychecks, why not. He doesn't needs nor belts nor rematch vs Lopez, it is nonsense, most likely he will lost rematch vs Lopez via decision.
    However looks that Loma still is dreaming.

    Loma now needs stop to dreaming and think only about paychecks.
    Nothing wrong, Lopez too will be replaced when he will be older, with next racing horse.

    Loma will not beat Lopez in rematch, he is too small for 135 lbs division, too long mileage under belt and yeah, he is old if compare with Lopez.
     
  7. Quina74

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    Yes he did. That jab clean right hand at 4:30 does not land at all, you aven't watched it in slow mo that's for sure. The jab doesn't land and the right hand is taken on the gloves. The clean body punching you are taking about is also non existent... Lopez throws a right hook and left hook body after that 1-2...the right hook lands belows the belt, but its hard to see there's another angle where it clearly hits the thigh. The left hook is otherwise the only clean punch that lands but Lomas elbow may have taken some of that. Other than that there were no clean bodyshots.. There may have been 1-3 jabs that connected with Lomas midsection but these where as Loma was retreating hence not totally clean

    That said I can forgive people for scoring the round to Lopez due to the aggression and it looked like he was landing at first glance... But he wasn't
     
  8. vargasfan1985

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    Casual
     
  9. vargasfan1985

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    So much ignorance in one post. Ignore.
     
  10. vargasfan1985

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    You wish
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    You're smoking crack. Show me the angle where that jab is seen not connecting to Loma's face. That right hand clearly landed on Loma's face as well. You can see Loma's head turning because of the impact, you can also legit see Lomas ear get hit by the punch. You can't make this up. Gloves ? (LOL) and that punch was not below the belt, it looked like it because Lopez pulled his hand back after hitting Loma and because it landed slightlyon the lower side of the belt. Also the body punches in the beginning, mostly right hands land glancingly but they still land. Because the any of body punches that Lopez tried to land and miss didn't make a sound, the ones that landed did. Did you even watch the second round slowed down ? Lopez lands body shots albiet Loma pulls away from them so the sting gets taken out of them but they still land.
     
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  12. vargasfan1985

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    Loma has already said its about legacy
     
  13. Surrix

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    Boon is classic Loma hater.
    Most likely because he doesn't have money and Loma had get bunch with not bad 6 and 7 digits paychecks in long row, especially if compare with low number of pro fights he had.
     
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  14. Quina74

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    Okay. Go back to that video you sent me. Click 4:30. Click 0.25 x speed. Actually watch it. You can reasonably infer that the jab thrown is slipped because that's what the visual evidence shows Loma slipping, there's no visual cocking of Lomas head back. Where's the evidence it lands? The right hook /hand from Lopez in that footage clearly hits Lomas glove which is up and pulled down. Just watch it how I said 4:30, 0.25x speed...
    Skip to 4:32/33..0. 25x speed you can see that it just knicked the Lower part of the belt.. What is evident is that is Lomas upper thigh, possibly hip which, you guessed it, isn't a significant clean scoring punch. There's a link out there from a different that clearly shows it landing in that area.. I'll find it when I cba

    Glancingly.. Hence not clean.. We going to act like partially connecting on a retreating fighter with a jab to midsection is a clean punch? Why not score probing punches now whilst we are at it... F it whilst we are doing this we may as well score inside slap with the gloves and thigh and hip punches

    May as well score the punch to the shoulder from Lopez at 4:34 a clean shot as well
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    LOL lets say the jab is slipped. It doesn't matter anyway because Lopez landed a big right hand on Lomachenko and you can legit he the punch hit his head and move his ear, this is objective observation. Im not going to tell you to click on the time, im going to show you.

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    Lopez landed that right hand and clearly hit Lomachenkos ear and denying that is literally denying reality. It hit his gloves as well but thats because Lomachenkos guard is incredibly tight. It connected to his head so it counts along with those bodyshots landing

    Show me the low blow and even if you don't take that into account lopez is still ahead of him in terms of punches landed at the end of the round. That left hook landed on his elbow and body so it counts. Glancing blows still count because they still hit their target although not cleanly. Basic knowledge