Lomachenko - The Greatest

Did uncle Bob not once proclaim Floyd as better than Ray Leonard when he was with top rank?

if Lomachenko walked away from Bob tomorrow, you bet your a** he would hold a different view point!

 

Nothing new. Expected to fight the winner of Commey vs. Lopez.

 

Joining the NOI isn't a good thing. They're racists and so was Ali, as well as a bully. Anyone who calls Smoking Joe an uncle Tom is a piece of **** in my eyes.

 

Greatest at fighting b- fighter's and bums. This guy hasn't fought a real threat since Rigo.

 

Loma's the most talented boxer alive right now by a country mile.

Biggest things are on the horizon for him.

Winner of Lopez/Comney is huge, Berchelt is a going to be a very nice win, Haney i think is a real possibility because Haney feels he has nothing to lose and must move onto 140lbs very soon, and Shakur Stevenson is probably happening.

* Tank Davis was 0.0% of this work. He'll clamour and beg for a fight when Loma is 38.

 

Ali was a pawn for the NOI. If you want to read a great book on the NOI read The Messenger by Evanzz. I was always pulling for Frazier when they fought. I thought it total BS the way the black community elevated Ali and diminished Frazier. But Ali was bigger than boxing. He was viewed as a savior of sorts.

 

Ali lived in America when he was viewed as a second class citizen and treated as such. Many blacks joined the NOI as a way to fight back. He shouldn't be judged for joining them. Blacks in America back then were treated like ****. Dogs were often treated better.

 

I don't know about that, he lost to Salido and was KD and had a fairly even fight against Linares. Maybe at 135 he's the most talented, but overall, I don't see it.

He has very nice footwork, and nice punch placement though, some of the best today.

 

Ali joined the NOI because he was a true believer NOT for any other reason. He stayed a believer throughout his life.
I may not share his beliefs but I admire the way he fought for them

 

A saviour of what? The everlasting hatred between blacks and whites? He want helping race relations by antagonising people. That's why Malcolm X was a failure for the civil rights movement and that MLK was its champion. MLK preached compassion and understanding among people of all races, not an antagonistic pushback to an admittedly backwards and savage way of thinking. The best way to break through ignorance is to make yourself understood to those that are ignorant, not holler at them. Ali was indeed a stooge, and Frazier was a good man who did a lot to better the reputation of the black community. He served his people well and its no wonder he held a grudge against Ali until the day he died for turning his people against him.

 

I'm not denying that but antagonism is never going to resolve conflict. MLK showed the right way, he was a true hero who knew how to turn the other cheek and show mercy and compassion to those who even might not have deserved it. That is a much more significant mark of a stronger man. Take it from an Irishman, we've had to get over mistreatment just as awful if not worse for centuries. Blacks in america had it lucky compared to us. Think of it that way. Hell the whole slavic race were slaves, it's what their name means. A bit of perspective matters on this, turn the other cheek to your former oppressors and you'll end up better for it.

 

Loma ain't the greatest.

End of discussion.
He ain't the most skilled either, Duran and Whitaker were better. As were Robinson and Charles.
Mayweather was better as well.

 

12 Fights and you are calling Him the best you have ever seen....no argument from me a Great Fighter and you could argue the best around at the moment in those 12 Fights he has a loss to Salido...but in His last 4 fights he has fought Linares...Pedraza....Crolla....and Campbell...lets just take a deep breath and see how his Career advances because to say he is the best we have ever seen is a Big Call.!!!

 

I respect you as a poster but you couldn't be more off base and I'll leave it at that.