Lomachenko - the most overrated in professional boxing?

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  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    We don't know the reason why he closed negotiation.
     
  2. Boxingfan1234

    Boxingfan1234 Active Member Full Member

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    Rigo didn't accept. Loma said they reached an agreement to a max of about 137, but Rigo still didn't want it.
    Rigo is going to take Loma to Cuban school doe. :lol:

    Keep crying.
     
  3. Boxingfan1234

    Boxingfan1234 Active Member Full Member

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    According to Caribe it was money.
    They said they would offer Loma 2 million but they havent, that's probably because they don't have it.
    They're still talking trash along.
     
  4. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too much weight, libras, pounds, etc.
     
  5. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Giving away 15 lbs is not smart decision.
     
  6. Ol' Bub

    Ol' Bub Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Waaaah! People like Lomachenko n dat make me maaad!"
    :rofl
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    That's what you think, but they never stated that. Most likely problem was money, I don't think they would have accepted even if Loma agreed to 134 lbs why? Not enough cash. Of course that's just my opinion.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    This is a measured response.

    Lomachenko is a very talented fighter, but he must overcome similarly talented fighters before he can be considered a great professional. Everything else is hyperbole and sensationalism.
     
  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Let's cut this bull**** out.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Great talent, no doubt. But to be only a handful of pro fights in and some people think he's the best or top P4P is ludicrous. His best win is arguably Russell JR. I don't believe someone's amateur record should play any part in their professional ranking or standing. I think he beats most around his weight but not P4P yet.
     
  11. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They guy has huge talent. Anybody that says he doesn't have talent is a hater. He is still young. I hope they can make the fight with Rigo. That fight would tell us a lot about both guys.
     
  12. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He should move up to 130.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Loma is the truth the guy is just as good as people say he is.
     
  14. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Here is the ultimate unbiased opinion of Lomachenko:

    Salido situation - that's been explained in my first post on the first page. Credit to Salido, though. Salido is playing to win, he doesn't care if he wins ugly. He schooled Lomachenko on what pro boxing can be about.


    In my opinion, Lomachenko made the fight closer because Salido lost some steam across the stretch, and that certainly wasn't down to Lomachenko's shots across the duration of the fight.

    Salido's style will always be tough for the likes of Lomachenko, Rigondeaux, Mayweather.


    Lomachenko has work to do. Loma-GRJ was a great performance by Loma, but he showed he needs to exercise the option to fight off the back foot when needed rather than jump to a reset.
    Even being gutsy enough as Gonzalez and Golovkin despite their differing styles, by taking a step back if necessary.


    - Lomachenko still made the GRJ fight unecessarily competitive.

    Loma needs to continue to evolve in his ability to score wins on effective aggression.

    On the plus side, he is the type of boxer that thrives over 12 rounds. His father is a true scholar, they study their opponent in the ring and increasingly have them playing Team Lomachenko's game.
    Lomachenko can hit hard when he really goes for it. He may have the perception of being a featherfist, but he genuinely isn't. He uses shots to set up bigger ones.
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    Loma vs Rigo collapse:
    1. This is all Rigo's fault.
    2. Why would Rigo come back to throw in a better offer for both of them, and then reject that?
    3. Lomachenko would be drained at 124lbs catchweight. Rigo has a bigger frame than you give him credit for. He's short but that's it. Height does not mean frame. Rigo has come in at 128lbs vs Marroquin and fought 139lb Donaire. I'm sure he can face Loma. Having said that, Loma should really agree to a 135lb hydration limit. If he has no problem coming in under 137lbs, then come in at 135lbs - by agreeing to a hydration limit, that shows he doesn't just want 'featherweight rules'.
    4. Rigo IMO is ducking Loma. Money speaks, and Rigo may in the future be offered more to fight him.


    Loma vs Walters collapse:
    1. Walters weighs in at 126lbs throughout his WHOLE CAREER, but all of a sudden he comes in overweight in his most recent fight, he knows Salido got success being the bigger guy (Gamalier Rodriguez knows Salido got success with low blows, but that didn't work for Gamalier). Why should Loma, a guy with a negative experience be expected to go through training camp just because your fat ass can't get to 126lbs? PROVE you can get to 126lbs first.
    2. Loma has said BEFORE he turned pro that it's his next dream to WIN ALL THE BELTS and become UNIFIED in FW. Walters lost his belt at the weigh-in.
    3. Walters confirms he's a fat ass as he's now fighting at 130lbs.
     
  15. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    A fighter is overrated if he is attributed abilities which he doesn't posses.

    If someone hasn't faced certain top opponent, then he is yet to prove whether he does posses certain attributed abilities or not. That doesn't mean that he doesn't posses them.

    You can't say that someone is overrated because he hasn't faced someone. If you have certain skills, you have them regardless of showcasing them against certain opponent or not.

    Perhaps you wanted to say that Lomachenko receives too much praise before even showcasing his skills against certain opponents.

    Of course, if you don't believe that Lomachenko is as good as they say and if you think that he would lose to someone like Walters, then you probably think that he's overrated.

    But I would be careful with that in case Lomachenko-Walters actually happens. :cool: