Lomachenko to become first Undisputed LW since Pernell Whitaker

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The WBC belt is with Loma but not on the line? but it must be some odd WBC rule
    Teo has to fight again for the WBC to get the undisputed Championship if he does KO Loma.

    If Loma wins this fight, it definitely cements his ATG legacy.
     
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Loma has become the "Franchise" WBC champion... some bullshirt WBC created belt, so they could steal the belt away from him and hand it to a PBC fighter.
    Becoming undisputed nowadays is not just hard for you having to be the division's best, you firstly have to circumvent all ABC bull, and be backed by a promoter or a nationality that prevents you from getting stripped. Then get the other beltholders in the ring with you, believing they have a chance, or at least a huge payday as a lamb to the slaughter.
    Loma cut his own payday to get Lopez in the ring, but he couldn't prevent getting his belt taken away by the WBC crooks and replaced by a worthless trinket with a fancy name.
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    M Suleiman said today that Loma is the WBC champion, making him undisputed champion if he wins. Whatever this move motives are its not good for the WBC to not keep the belt on the line for this big fight!

    Its very hard to be Undisputed, which makes it a definite ATG qualifier for Loma, it really will take lots of effort to get in this position, then win in the ring!
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The motives were money! Loma won the WBC 135 belt and just over 2 months later they handed it to Haney. It's obvious as F.
    Funny that Sulaiman says Loma is still the champion, cause what does that say about Haney's so called WBC championship?
    definitely.
     
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  5. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    Loma being franchise champion is actually a soft way of WBC stripping his belt.

    To be a complete and undisputed champion, he still needs to fight Haney even if he wins against Lopez.
     
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  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This quackery will make sense, if Haney vs the Undisputed champion is made next. In this scenario WBC gets more having two WBC champions face each other. In the article it says the Franchise WBC title is on the line, Boxrec probably don't have the tolerance to add this new belt. WBC said the Franchise belt will be never contested, but this time its contested.
     
  7. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can Loma be the WBC champion when he doesn't have the WBC belt?

    WBC screwed up big time with making Loma Franchise champion. I understand the Canelo thing since the WBC did it to appease both Canelo and Al Haymon.

    On a side note. Has anyone even seen the WBC Franchise title?
     
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  8. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    I have been asking the same question all this time. I know WBC is full of crooks, but the situation of Loma elevation to the 'franchise champion' is rather different from Canelo though both are in fact are a polite way to strip their titles without hurting their reputation or relationship with the organization. Loma is elevated to the 'franchise champion' only one-and-a half month after he defeated Campbell. This is totally opposite to how they treat Canelo as he was being allowed to fight Jacobs in unification bout. The previous lightweight titleholder, Mikey Garcia, even had no mandatory fight for almost two years after he got it from Zlaticanin.

    Same like how WBC tried to appease Haymon, the elevation of Loma to franchise status is very likely WBC's way to appease Hearn who signed Haney in idea that he could gain control of WBC 135 lbs belt as two top rankers fighting for it. Loma spoiled his plan by proposing to fight for the vacant belt and got accepted by WBC.

    Shame that WBC 'antics' prevent undisputed lineal champion to be decided by the historical fight this week.
     
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  9. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    • Tied for fewest number of fights to win a world title
    • Holds the record for fewest number of fights to become a 3 weight world champion
    • Holding all 4 major belts at LW in less than 20 pro fights.
    No one would be able to deny Lomachenko's greatness after that.
     
  10. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Alot on the line for loma
     
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  11. IsaL

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    Its a nice accomplishment, but when looking at things in proper context he's a 2 time gold medalist who became pro at 24.

    Impressive, but I find it more impressive is a kid with not much of an amateur record becoming world champion at 17, 18, 19, 20, and even 21 years old.

    How many amateur fights did he have? How many semi pro fights did he have?
     
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a move to go virtual, as this cuts costs and is the common trend now.

    I think amateur boxing achievements also add as some ATG credit, most times great amateurs fail to replicate that success in the pros, Loma is one of the few to do it on both side. Many of us are also influenced by that
     
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    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You cannot lump in Am and Pro together for ranking purposes.
     
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  14. Bah Lance

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    This is the most sensible post I've seen on the subject in a forum like this.

    Being undisputed is near impossible these days. Being the best isn't enough, and it's not fair to hold it against fighters that are unable to unify like fighters of the past were.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bottom line... Loma is the real WBC World Champion, Haney is just a WBC LW beltholder, regardless of quagmire the WBC created.