Lomachenko top 10 ATG at 130?

Of course not. For the simple fact that he didn't do enough at 130 for serious consideration.

 

I don't actually have a top 10 for 130 yet so I can't say from a resume perspective, but I dont think there's ten fighters there I'd have favored over him.

I suppose the answer lies in how much weight one puts on H2H vs resume

 

H2h only

 

This is where I am. In the ring he's one of the best all around guy's I've ever seen. I was at both his Russell Jr. and Marriaga fights and left the arenas impressed for completely different reasons each night.

But he's jumped around weight classes without thoroughly cleaning one out. hard to put him top 10 in any specific class.

 

He seems too talented to not rack up a hell of a resume. No way should he have left 126 with Santa Cruz, Frampton, Valdez, etc there. No way should he have left 130 without fighting Berchelt. Loma seems to pass the eyeball test, but Arum handles him like he has to be careful with him.

 

Lomachenko isn't going to and shouldn't be expected to hang around on the off chance Davis and Sinclair decide they've grown a pair and want the fight.

 

All time career 130 pounders or at least fighters that spent the bulk of their career at the weight is not very deep. You got Arguello, Flash Elorde, Azumah Nelson, Brian Mitchell, Kobayashi maybe Toney Lopez and Alfredo Escalera. Maybe you can fill that out with a couple more names, but I can't think of anyone you could add that would be better than Lomachenko.

I'd might put Rocky Lockridge in there too, but he spent the majority of his career that was successful at Featherweight.

 

As if Davis was the only viable opponent. There were three or four guys that he should have fought, just like he left three or four guys at 126 that he should have fought.

 

Because the fights for whatever reason couldn't be made, you are very naive if you think or want to put the blame solely at Lomachenko's door.

Fact is the other fighters you speak of are still not facing each other and Lomachenko couldn't get the fights so moved up and....I love this saying to certain posters.....dared to be great!!!

 

ok you loma ball sucker

 

Great insight into the thread....fired up an alt have we?

 

On resume, no. On what we saw, sure.

 

I never did any such thing. I'm simply saying that outside or Russell Jr. He left 126, not having fought three or four of the top guys, and he also left 130 not having fought any of the top three or four best guys. As the fighter, he has a say so in some of that.

 

Never really thought about it.. I mean it's just a number.. & ATG is a concept based on personal opinion. I mean who gets to define the margins & decide who's variables meet the criteria for the label? You or me? Deep....