Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux - The SIZE/WEIGHT. The REAL Fight of The Century.

Most felt he didn't deserve that decision and Castillo actually outlanded Floyd. Salido didn't outland Loma :deal.
You have me talking bad about Floyd, who I have a lot of respect for.
You're either a troll or one of those racist haters.

 

Ovid***ile and Nonito Smoak seem like alts/the same poster.

 

Possibly, they both make irrational arguments :think

 

112-116:deal

 

This mofos are re****ed, keep the discussion with loma/rigo

 

Why are you using age as a measuring stick, rather than pro experience? May was an excellent amateur boxer with a bronze in olympics and many other titles, but he didn't get as far as Loma has, so he made a switch early. You could compare the amateur experience of both men and say "yea, Loma was a much better amateur boxer, but both had plenty of experience in amateur ranks".

Then you look at the pro level experience, and Floyd had 28!!!!! pro fights when he fought and arguably lost to Castillio. Loma fought Salido with 1 pro fight under his belt! How can you possibly compare that? Not to mention that many say Castillio was robbed, and anyone with a brain would argue that with a fair, or even a neutral ref, Loma would have won by by a wide margin. Even with the sell-out ref that they had, Loma could have still had the decision in his favour and no one would have bat an eye.

 

You are a fool if you think that pro experience is all that matters. Boxing experience, ring experience is what matters. Lomachenko had about 1000 rounds of amateur experience. To put that in perspective Floyd Mayweather has 375 rounds of pro experience and about 250 rounds of amateur experience. Lomachenko has been boxing for twenty years. He's not one of these guys who puts down a football at 18 and decides to take up boxing. His dad is a boxing coach, like Mayweather's dad was a boxer. Besides, Loma had half a dozen pro fights in WSB that nobody counts.

And all that ref stuff is just excuses. If you apply it to Lomachenko you have to apply to it everybody. Apply it to Mayweather and claim that he couldn't have beat various opponents without the help of the ref. The fact of the matter is that he did beat them. The record book says so, and you have to move on and accept it. In the end, how Salido did it doesn't matter any more than how Mayweather won. All that matters is the W. Or in this case, the L on Lomachenko.

 

Amateur experience counts up to certain point, not any further. You cannot learn to dosify yourself with amateur fights. You cannot learn to deal with pro-fights damage with amateur fights. Plus, the hardest guys, the most experienced ones, the big deals are pros, so you are not going to face them as an amateur. Sure maybe, some cuban boxer here and there, but not anyone more.

 

Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Mickey Walker, Joe Louis, Bob Fitzsimmons, Sam Langford, Jack Dempsey, Harry Greb, Tommy Gibbons, Archie Moore, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Dwight Qawi, James Toney, Manny Pacquiao.

And the premise of this thread is that Lomachenko is as good as Pacquiao. My contention is that he is not.

I agree with that, however it doesn't negate the fact that good fighters regularly beat opponents who have large weight advantages.

So you are saying that he wasn't ready for an opponent of Salido's caliber, but you think he's ready for Rigondeaux?

 

Pacquiao also lost to some let's just say less than impressive fighters, this goes to show that a loss early in your career is not the end of the world and yes Loma is an older fighter now but his pro career has still just begun...

 

Rigondeaux isn't 5'4. He is more like 5'2 1/2 maybe 5'3. He also has entered the ring weighing 122 pounds in a couple recent fights, so I doubt he would be blowing up for Lomachenko.

 

you're an uninspired troll. All that counts is a W? In a sport that is corrupt to the core, where a man can win 8 rounds and lose a UD, where a guy can be counted out in a tko to serve an agenda?

Peddle your bs elsewhere. W is not always a measure of greatness. Very often, its a measure of popularity and a hefty envelope in the refs/judge's pocket.

Lomachenko is making history, no matter what you or that bogus L on his record may say. When its all said and done, I won't be surprised if he is ranked higher in the ATG ranks than money.

 

This.

:think

 

Winning a title in only your second pro fight would have been real impressive if Lomachenko had won. If he'd won...