Lomachenko vs Walters set for november 26

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  1. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This will be a barnburner Loma should win but NW can change the fight with 1 punch. Definite FOTY candidate,can't wait.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's a good fight, don't get me wrong.

    But I would prefer one of the top men in the division.

    Vargas/Salido/Muira. If he wants to be the best in the world he does need to face one of those names.

    This is good in the mean time though.
     
  3. drenlou

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    Salido and Miura are looking to fight eachother in December, and Vargas I'm not sure what he's doing right now. But this was one of the biggest fights to be made in boxing at 126, and I think they carry over that rivalry into the 130 pound class just the same. I can't wait!
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I also rated Fortuna as one of the best guys at 130 before Sosa stopped him, and Axe Man was robbed vs Sosa.

    This is a great fight. I think Loma takes it wide, but that says more about Loma (who is a historical level talent in my opinion) than Walters, who I'm also a fan of and is upper world class.
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    This is great.
    Finally some good news with 2 class acts fighting each other. No marinating required
     
  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice 4th quarter of boxing lined up
     
  7. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Meh, Walters is better. It'll go down very well in the history books.
    This is a Ward-Kovalev type fight.
     
  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Walters is better than all of them, this is the best fight to be made. Props to loma, i think his team stopped being divas, and started giving better offers. I always thought Loma wanted these big fights, but Bob wasnt willing to pay these opponents a fair purse.
     
  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Eh, Walters is really good and I consider him elite, but Loma is clearly much better than him. Ward/Kovalev is a much closer fight, I think Loma boxes Walters ear off. Anyways got a good gameplan for loma's team?
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Show me a the ranking of Walters compared with the 3 I mentioned.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boxing rankings dont mean ****.
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're right, they don't, Miura and Vargas would probably massacre Walters.
     
  13. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I don't understand why you laugh at that..Loma was a lost boy against Salido and didn't fight to his potential. It is well known that he didn't fight to his potential. As someone who has watched about 50 of his amateur fights, many times over, actually understands boxing and can also compare his execution of certain strategies and punches against old time greats, I know what I'm talking about. Hell, even the HBO team know about me and another poster, dealt.
    No one really understood Loma's style very much, but a lot of it is based on his pacing strategy, more so with Usyk who I believe did well in his early title fight but no way near as well as he could've. I'm sure you can pick out the problems in Loma's approach vs Salido and compare it to how he should've fought him, based on how he fought opponents in the past.
    Everyone was impressed by Loma vs Ramirez in the debut, I was worried and thought it was an awful performance. I wasn't even that impressed with his performance vs Russell Jr in the pacing strategy aspect because Loma used to reset at any hint of attack vs Russell, thus making the fight more competitive than it needed to be. Now he's flipped the script..so it seems.

    Anyway, I need to assess Walters properly as my memory of him is rather rusty. Uppercuts are something that are very, very rarely landed on Loma. Walters has a brilliant uppercut, it won't be a problem for him though.
    Stylistically, it's not meant to be a difficult fight for Loma, but Walters is very good and Loma may be a little conservative for my liking until the latter stages.

    Walters doesn't have good footwork, he plants his back foot and is far too static, he's not going to be able to read Loma's non-lineal forms of attack very well.
    By default, this will mean he will be susceptible to shots from angles, set up by Loma's footwork where Loma moves his lead foot outside of Walters and will crack him there a few times. Loma will go from setting it up with the head, then to the body, where I think he can really catch Walters.

    Walters is very, very dependent on a high guard - the type of defence that Loma loves to go up against. Walters must crack a right hand to the body, something he's very good at, because Loma when operating with the high guard makes himself vulnerable to these shots.
     
  14. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Rankings don't mean too much to me. They're definitely higher ranked than Walters, but ranking and actual ability are two different things.
     
  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I don't think that his team stopped being divas. I think they're painfully diva-ish after how they handled the Salido issue.
    Walters did not want Lomachenko at all, he only would've agreed if he got a very high purse for it. Arum manages Walters. Arum was shelving Walters so he doesn't fight. Walters has no option but to take this fight, but was offered probably an extra 50k max.