Lomachenko's Legacy

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  1. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Good post, agree fully
     
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    Very good contemporary fighter.
     
  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Presently, he's an absolute lock HOFer. Time will tell, however, if he still has the opportunity to achieve ATG status overall. Receiving the nod against Haney would have greatly advanced that effort and perception.

    Had he remained at 130lbs, I believe he would have achieved the kind of prolonged excellence (along with the proverbial "eye test") worthy of ATG consideration at that particular weight.
     
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  4. Flo_Raiden

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    Loma is a HOF fighter without a doubt. ATG is a different story. He falls short of ATG unfortunately, but time will tell after he retires. Perhaps if he manages to become undisputed at 135 then he might have a case.

    Usyk, on the other hand, is a legitimate ATG.
     
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    Well said. And his amateur boxing career/credentials are otherworldly themself. But the fact he just jumped into big fights so quick as a pro and had that much success in awesome.
     
  6. Furey

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    Great post, hard for me to disagree with any of these points.
     
  7. NoChin

    NoChin Jamal Adams - I'm the best in the nAAAAAYSHON!!!! Full Member

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    Legend.

    If not for that blatant cheating debacle vs Haney he would have been perceived as much greater than he already is. Absolute schooling he did of Kambosos last week. Legend-Loma he should be called.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Lol, based on what?
     
  9. IsaL

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    Based on getting a title shot in his 2nd pro fight, flopping, but still getting a 2nd title shot in his 3rd pro fight.

    He has three loses in 20 fights and still gets title shots handled to him.
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    I am fairly certain he earned that first title shot by becoming a two time Olympic gold medalist. Otherwise, no one would have cared to fast track him so fast.
    He is also 14-3 in title shots. You clearly just nitpicking statistics to make your argument.

    :lol: I imagine you would argue that Kiko Martinez was privileged too since he got offered title fights vs: Quigg, Santa Cruz, Russell Jr and Galahad.
     
  11. MURK20

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    I scored it 7-5 Haney.
     
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  12. steviebruno

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    You don't earn title shots by fighting in the amateur ranks; you know better than that.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    Likely a top 5 of this generation, but doesn't seem like he'll break into the top 3. But you never know.

    Tank and Shakur might be difference makers here, though. Will probably be his biggest p4p tests if he faces them.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Same here.
     
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  15. IsaL

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    The amateurs have nothing to do with pro rankings. There are fighters putting in work in their division and paying their sanctioning fees.

    Lomachenko came into the pros very privileged.. it is what it is. Pro fighting is also a business, but it doesn't change that Lomachenko is one of the most privileged fighters.