Long time Wladimir Fan But..

-It's truely an honor to be credited with .5 a point from you.

-I honestly don't recall much "holding and hitting" or attempted Kung Fu neck breakage and I'll be damned if I'm revisiting this fight again.

-I do recall some of the knockdowns in question being a result of Wlad pushing Povetkin down when he had no legs after a right cross and was trying to hang on.

-Nonsense, Wlad's clinching can be overcome. I guess we are all forgetting about Calvin Brock who may have got himself knocked out by walking into a right hand but had some considerable success on the inside against Wlad by using purposeful movement and beating the hell out of his ribs, instead of just diving widely into his torso with a wild swing at his chin and crowding himself. He hurt Wlad to the body, bruised his sides up badly, and convincingly won 2-3 rounds(more than anybody since). Wlad was in full Squid mode at this time, but Brock was the only guy who knew how to properly attack a big man on the inside.

 

But the fight with Brock was in America with a ref who wouldn't allow him to do what he does in Europe, hence why fighting in the States he has also been brutally KO'd by Brewster and gone life and death with the slow as a sloth, unskilled, utterly dreadful Sam Peter. In these fights he was actually warned by the ref about his cheating from the start.

 

-You need to revisist Brock/Wlad, its actually a good fight. It had nothing do with the ref, Brock was just that good at working the body. Wlad clinched but only after getting his ribs battered. I miss Brock, shame about the eye.

-Eh...no. He gassed against Brewster and Peter just sumo threw him when he tried to clinch.

 

Give him a Pianeta, a Mormeck, or a Wach, and he'll be back to his best.

You people are sick.

 

watch the video..

 

Do you not realize how goofy you look every time you post about something you have no idea about?

Wlad rarely, if ever clinches against anyone his size.

In fact, the last time a Wlad fight had a lot of clinches was almost a decade ago against Peter.

Against someone his size, Wlad destroys.

Some of you guys really, really need to take up a new sport because you clearly don't understand the one you spend a lot of time talking about.

 

Here's a nice move by Wlad, pushes Povetkins head down, hits while holding behind the head and then follows it up with a lovely crisp elbow to the throat

http://i.minus.com/ipPIC0hNXkLyy.gif

You're not even allowed to elbow people in throat in MMA, yet Wlad can do it in a boxing match.

 

Oh crap this brittarded moron is back

 

Wlad pulled a Lewis there with the hold and uppercut.

Looks like Povetkin was hanging on and he just shoved him off though he looked like he was going down anyway, hardly a crisp elbow to the throat. You made it sound a Chuck Norris strike.

 

You know boxings a tough sport I get that, and yes, people will be elbowed, they'll have their heads bend down and their backs leaned on, they'll get head butted, but those aren't usually the main dish that's being handed out, those are usually auxiliary to actually punches being thrown in the match. Someone said it and I think they were serious when they said he actually initiated more hugs than punches in a couple of those rounds.

The major point is that given the size and skill discrepancy it was completely unnecessary. There's no reason he couldn't have taken a step back and hit Povetkin with an over hand right a couple of times.

Hell in the last few rounds I don't even know what was keeping Povetkin up, I guess it was Wlad just holding him up so Povetkin wouldn't fall over from shear exhaustion.

 

I'm not sure on specific stats, but Wlad clearly was trying to catch him coming in and did quite frequently with that little check hook.

There are many instances Povetkin is clearly stunned and diving into Wlad to hold on and stay up. Povetkin did this against Huck as well.

Have you watched Povetkin/Huck by chance? It looked to me like Povetkin approached the Wlad fight the same way, but he couldn't impose himself like he did against the smaller Huck.

Look at 1:35 of the video, look familiar? Even Huck just decides to dump his weight on him when he comes in like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cOXDeynBh8

 

Is Wlad trolling the heavyweight division?

 

Huck's Coach Uli Wegner is also complaining about Povetkin. Since it's the same ref, it's understandable that he decided not to punish Wlad for the clinching, because he's seen Povetkin come in low before.

 

I'm not equating a clinch with a low blow. I'm equating grabbing behind the head, pulling the head down and then leaning your entire body weight on a person EVERYTIME they get inside (a completely illegal method of stopping someone fighting in the inside) with hitting someone in the balls EVERYTIME they tried to get inside (another completely illegal method of stopping someone fighting on the inside).

Both are completely illegal methods of preventing a fighter from boxing to his gameplay.

I've praised Wlad when it's due, I've criticised him when it's due. Unlike the majority of posters remaining on this forum I'm actually able to see both sides of the coin.

 

Funny how many people have changed their opinion on wlad since this fight. Ive always been a fan but by the 3rd round of this fight i was rooting for povetkin.