Longest reach P4P?

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  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why has the longest reach P4P?

    If we take reach in centimeter (or inches) and divide it by weight - then who has the longest reach?

    I have done some calculations:

    …......... … Reach Weight ...Reach P4P (RP4P)
    Chris John 175 126 ...138.9
    Paul Williams 208 154 ...135.1
    Antonio Margarito 185 147 ...125.9
    Floyd Mayweather 183 147 ...124.5
    Kermit Cintron 188 154 ...122.1
    Manny Pacquiao 170 140 ...121.4
    Juan Manuel Marquez 170 140 ...121.4
    Sergio Martinez 193 160 ...120.6
    Kelly Pavlik 191 160 ...119.4
    Ricky Hatton 165 140 ...117.9
    Librado Andrade 198 168 ...117.9
    Miquel Cotto 170 147 ...115.6
    Ronald Wright 183 160 ...114.4
    Andre Dirrell 191 168 ...113.7
    Chad Dawson 198 175 ...113.1
    Carl Froch 189 168 ...112.5
    Joe Calzaghe 185 168 ...110.1
    Mikkel Kessler 185 168 ...110.1
    Bernard Hopkins 191 175 ...109.1
    Glen Johnson 191 175 ...109.1
    Antonio Tarver 191 175 ...109.1
    Arthur Abraham 183 168 ...108.9
    Roy Jones Jr 188 175 ...107.4
    Peter Manfredo 178 168 ...106.0
    Zolt Erdei 183 175 ...104.6
    Jean Pascal 170 175 ...97.1
    Wlad Klitscho 206 240... 85.8

    Basically one of the things it shows is that when Floyd was fighting at 140 or below he had top P4P reach.
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    Mosley's up there. He has a 74 inch (188 cm) reach.

    Caballero is very rangy.

    It's crazy that Williams has a longer wingspan than most HW champions in history.

    If he learned to properly use his height and reach he'd be so damn good, but also probably really boring to watch.
     
  3. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    yeah williams is a genetic freak. i cant remember a welter being 6'2" with his wingspan. its almost comical to imagine that he could actually put on enough bulk, over time, to compete in the super middleweight regions. its not out of the realm of possibllity. truly a p4p definition.

    whats interesting is that reach often goes hand in hand with boxing success. its similar to basketball, in that having long arms is often the difference between being good and great. look at a point guard like iverson whose long arms enabled him to get his shot off for a good 10 years in the league. if you had to build a boxer, next to the mental aspects of course, physically reach would be right up there next to speed in terms of most valuable assets a fighter can have. of course it depends on how you use it, tyson, fraizer, inside guys use their short arms to an advantage with hooking and so on.
     
  4. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    Wingspan isn't reach though, is it? You need the length of their arms as your measurement. If you have broad shoulders it means you have a shorter reach than someone with the same wingspan and narrow shoulders.
     
  5. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kessler only have average reach compared to height. 185 height and 185 reach. Nothing special there
     
  6. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's even stranger if you imagine him growing through weight classes healthily he could end up at Heavyweight, close to Haye and Adamek in terms of height!
     
  7. Vantage_West

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    5'9, 77' reach
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Considering Caballero has 8 CM more reach than John in the same weight class (which he just moved up to), I'd guess he wins.
     
  9. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you'd done a DNA test on that guy it'd come out more ape than human.

    (That's a comment on the length of his arms, not the color of his skin, and if you still feel it's racist on account of black folks have longer arms I don't care, the joke is not mean spirited.)
     
  10. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    smooth....
     
  11. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think you explaining your joke makes it sounds more racist than it did before. :lol:
     
  12. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Actually, the stats in the first post don't make sense to me, you said you're dividing height by weight, for example Floyd Mayweather gives us 183/147. Yet you say the result of that is 124.5.

    Can someone explain how on earth 183 divided by 147 is 124.5?! it should be about 1.4, off the top of my head.
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    183 / 147 * 100 = 124.5

    It's interesting but of course doesn't make much sense since an average HW doesn't have twice as long reach as an average flyweight just because he weighs twice as much. Nor he's twice taller. There's not much of a difference for example between minimumweight Nkosinathi Joyi's (172cm) and heavyweight David Tua's (178cm) reach and they are 17 divisions apart.

    Joyi would "win" this comparation with his 172/105*100 = 163.8
     
  14. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fail, u didnt even mention cunninghum. (208cm)
     
  15. Thread Stealer

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    Both matter I think. Of course arm length is important but when you fight, you're more sideways anyway (or are supposed to be), to present a smaller target. If your body is wide, then it adds some extra distance for your opponent to reach your head.