Longest times down on canvas flat on your back before getting up and beating count

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good example, but Montiel was only on his back for about 3-4 seconds, and he was shuffling his legs in pain while down, then he tried to get up, fell down again only to just beat the count. You're right, he didn't come forward when asked by the ref but he did appear to be standing straight up ready to go. You know, I think that knockdown shows why the way Jack Reiss does it by asking a fighter to move laterally then come back is probably a better way to tell if a fighter is OK then by just asking a fighter to walk forward like was the case with Montiel. And while I think we all agree that Montiel was out of it and it probably should have been stopped, the last two shots that Donaire got in after the knockdown didn't appear to do any additional damage, and Montiel did have his gloves up. (I'm not saying it shouldn't have been waived off when he fell back down after trying to get up, I'm just saying he didn't appear to suffer any additional damage from Donaire when it was allowed to continue . . . it could have if the ref didn't step in right away but at least Moniel appeared to still have his wits about him blocking and slipping those last two shots)

    While an amazing feat to get up and beat that count from Montiel, he wasn't down flat on his back as long as Fury, and he didn't appear to be down and out cold at any point.
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    The infamous "knocking someone out to get a draw" incident.
    I remember the referee starting the count and then being swayed by Cintron who insisted it was a headbutt, while he was just KTFO by Maravilla.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah and that's the other thing I was gonna ask about. I first wanted to see if anyone remembers a fight where somebody was down flat on his back for 7 seconds or more then still able to get up and beat the count. Then the next part of that would be how many of those did the fighter get up and finish the fight like Fury did.

    It's unclear if Fury truly was out cold or if he was just staying down as long as possible so he didn't try to get up too soon. Fury is very cerebral so if I had to guess it was that he was conscious the whole time but just buzzed and wanted to wait as long as possible (like he said in the post fight) before getting up.

    But still whether he was out cold or not, he's in rare company for being down that long flat on his back only to spring to life and get up before beating the count. Of some of the other examples posted, like Mike Tyson's knockdown of Douglas or Lewis Grant, those guys weren't down flat on their back as long as Fury. Douglas was clearly not out cold from the Mike Tyson uppercut. He sat up immediately and pounded the canvas. With Grant the 3rd knockdown he was down flat on his back for about as long as Fury and the count was slower, meaning Grant got up earlier in the ref's count than Fury got up in Reiss's count.

    Also Grant had already been down twice before. That 3rd knockdown he started getting up at the count of 5. In the 12th vs Wilder, Fury started getting up at the count of 6. (though the count started faster for Fury compared to Lewis's 3rd KD of Grant) And of course Grant didn't make it to the end of the fight.