Longevity; does that mean anything?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Top 10:
    DEONTAY WILDER WEEKS ON LIST: 401
    ANTHONY JOSHUA WEEKS ON LIST: 300
    JOSEPH PARKER WEEKS ON LIST: 277
    DILLIAN WHYTE WEEKS ON LIST: 241
    LUIS ORTIZ WEEKS ON LIST: 189
    TYSON FURY WEEKS ON LIST: 163
    ANDY RUIZ JR. WEEKS ON LIST: 111
    OLEKSANDR USYK WEEKS ON LIST: 31
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    The list itself may not be entirely accurate but longevity at the top of the rankings is one indication of ability yes. Take Breazeale and Martin: both "top 10" ranked opponents when AJ beat them but only there for a few weeks or months, so it meant little if anything. If you've been on the list for several years or a decade, you are very likely to be a consistent fighter of high ability.
     
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    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I think what it means is self-explanatory. It shows how long someone has been a good boxer. It doesn't show how good a particular boxer is.
     
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  4. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    I think Povetkin has the most weeks in the top 10
     
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    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quite a bit of this longevity is that a generation that should have started fighting each other 400-500 weeks ago and be giving the next generation their shot now only just started mixing it up.
     
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    Top 10 for 13 straight years.
     
  7. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Should we combine Usyks days on the cruiserweight list aswell?
     
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    Of course not.
     
  9. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Longevity in itself isnt inpressive.

    longevity at the upper echalon is.
     
  10. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Longlivity says if a fighter is constantly near or at the top, it doesn't tell you who's the best out of the lot, unless there's a longtime champion.
    Obviously if you're arguably the best of the decade, you probably have a 4 or 500+ longlivity number.
    But a high longlivity number itself doesn't mean you ever were the best or even top5 of the era. For instance you can constantly hang around 7 to 10 for 15 years straight, always getting beaten by the top guys, while beating the guys below or just cherrypicking your way through opponents, eventually coming up with a 700+ number.
    Or like in Fury's case, fighting nobody's and a gatekeeper here and there... beating the top dog, getting banned for a couple of years, back to nobody's and gatekeepers, beating another one of the top guys twice... hence low number because of short high's and long low's.
     
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    Povetkin is the best example of what you explained. There are certainly 500+ weeks in the top 10 heavyweights. However, Povetkin was in the top 5. Well, his longevity still says something, because it is on a par with his legacy.
     
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  12. kostya by ko

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    Longevity probably also means that the fighter has faced a lot of different styles and possibly over-lapping eras.
     
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    Why? Your thread title was 'longevity' not 'longevity at heavyweight'. I have a sneaky suspicion that this is a veiled anti- Usyk thread.
     
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    It's my fault, it's not an anti Usyk topic.
     
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    Yes, he was rated in the top 10 from 2006 to 2021 and top 5 from 2007 to 2021. At least top 5 is in the bag, maybe Patterson could challenge top 10.
     
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