Look, I want to see it as much as anyone, but Usyk is not "ducking" Parker.

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  1. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    But for me it's NOT the easy path. He'd beat Joe much easier in my opinion. Parker doesn't hit as hard, in my opinion doesn't have as good an engine, doesn't have as good a jab, I honestly think Usyk might 'give away' two out of the first three rounds to feel Joe out then win every round thereafter. Dubois remains the only question mark on his record, and regardless of how some feel about this, it will play on such a prideful man's mind. He'll want to clearly beat Dubois before he moves on.

    I think Dubois will catch him this time, father time waits for no man, but that's another story for another thread I guess..
     
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  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the opponent he hasn't fought is more a question mark than the one he knocked out without even leaving first gear.
     
  3. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    This is a fair point, but I still feel he beats Joe with relative ease man. Only an opinion.
     
  4. LoniBana

    LoniBana Member Full Member

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    What's the question mark? He KO'd the man out with a jab? Doesn't get more emphatic than that.
     
  5. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    Cool man, that was the end result, you are correct. I'm sure Usyk will want to end the controversy over the 'low blow', he is after all a consummate professional, or certainly appears to be.
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course he's not. You'd have to be a certified moron to claim or even believe that Usyk would duck anyone.
     
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  7. Kiwi Fish

    Kiwi Fish Active Member Full Member

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    Like I said before, I don't buy that ducking is real outside the court of public opinion.

    Do I think that Dubois is the easier fight for more money for Usyk? Yes, Dubois had literally nothing for him other than low blows and hasn't improved a huge amount since then.

    Do I think that Parker is the trickier fight and worth more legacy wise? Yes, Parker has handspeed that Usyk hasn't seen for years and he can make adjustments within a fight.

    Plus Usyk is the kind of fighter who likes to spend a long time studying and preparing for opponents, which he has already done once with Dubois, and probably hasn't spent much time thinking about Parker.

    A Parker win does more for Usyks legacy in the long run, he would have beaten everyone of this era. Where as if he doesn't end up fighting Parker and Parker goes on to be a successful champ then in a decades time people will still be saying "yeah Usyk was great, but he still ducked Parker"
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I don’t think Usyk has the presented himself that way to date - and I’m not so sure that he will going forward. He might well want to erase any alleged doubts or controversy lagging from the first Dubois fight - but that shouldn’t override any challenger who is in fact more eligible at this time.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Fighting Dubois, who's the next best HW in the world, and has a section of the boxing world believing he knocked Usyk out, is not ducking anyone.

    If Usyk fights Kabayel id also argue that's not ducking Parker.

    In an ideal world he fights all 3 and cleans out the division.
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Movement is better but nothing amazing and certainly nothing Uysk hasn't overcome before
     
  11. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Well, there is obviously a difference how he presents himself for his fans and how he really acts .

    Otherwise we would not have the entire discussion but watch usyk vs parker on short notice . Its the mandatory , parker is willing and everybody wants to see it .
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk has never ducked anyone regardless of their respective styles and not only has he never ducked anyone he's fought them all in their backyards or on the road.

    He opted to fight the slick and very tricky and awkward southpaw Mchunu for his first world title defence and US debut. How many fighters take on a highly skilled awkward slickster and quality southpaw like Mchunu as a voluntary for their first world title defence, let alone in their US debut where they're supposed to make a big impression and look good which is far from easy against Mchunu? He has the kind of nightmare style many fighters avoid like the plague unless they absolutely have to face him

    Belly is a more difficult stylistic match up for Usyk than J-Park given his unique blend of elite skills, sizes, orangutan reach, high ring IQ, versatility, counter punching, and speed for a giant. Look at the distance Usyk had to cover just to get in range to land his shots.

    Usyk has fought a very wide range of styles not just as a pro but in his 350 amateur fights and the WSB.

    J-Park's hand speed didn't help him get much smaller CW Massey out of there or even drop Massey so I'm not so sure what Usyk would be so concerned about stylistically about J-Park and why he would be worried about climbing into a ring with him.

    I get it J-Park is a great guy who it's impossible to dislike
    and his fans love him and want to see him get another title shot. I do too but accusing Usyk of ducking him or being scared of facing him is no different to doing the same with J- Park when he opted to fight one fighter over a other ie. highly disrespectful and completely baseless given their respective track records seeking out the best in their backyards or on the road and their moral character

    Even though J-Park won wide Massey gave him a tough night's work and had his fair share of moments and had no problem landing flush with big shots of his own when he let his hands go. Usyk is obviously so much better than Massey in every regard and I like Massey.

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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    But that’s my point, to date he has materially upheld himself exactly as presented.

    At any rate, I would prefer to see Olek fight Parker as I’ve already said.

    There’s an argument for a Dubois rematch but I think Parker should come first.

    If anyone has trouble splitting the two candidates, perhaps one can point to Dubois surrendering somewhat to Usyk in their fight, he had his shot and arguably didn’t put out 100%.

    I don’t believe the same can be said of Parker in any of his fights and I believe he would give all that he’s got.
     
  14. NahMateNoWay

    NahMateNoWay New Member Full Member

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    Yeah I reckon you're on the money. He ain't ducking at all no matter who he fights.
    I have a suspicion that if he sticks to his two fights left statement and fights two of the three, the fans of the left out fighter will say he ducked their guy. Can't win really and there's always going to be a "next best" fighter he hasn't fought.
     
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