Look let's be realistic here. Wlad/Vitali/Lewis would dominate any era of HW boxing

You bring the point going down in weight for a HW is as easy as going up in weight. Small fighters aren't as muscle bound as HW so it's easier to go up in weight.

You think James Toney could make middleweight?

 

Wlad and Lewis don't/didn't have great chins. But I agree that Louis wouldn't be able to take their power either. I could see the fighters that you've mentioned getting outboxed. So I agree they would have dominated the 30's. I don't think Louis would have had the opportunity to land clean on any guy, but if he had have done, and granted it's a big IF, could they have taken it?

You say Lewis and Wlad have taken heavy punches.

What about Puritty, Sanders, Brewster, McCall and Rahman?

You can't say that Louis would have had NO CHANCE AT ALL.

Regarding Wlad's power, that's just Freddie's opinion.

Although he may be right, Mike was far more dangerous.

Because he had a lot more variety. He used blistering combinations, he often switched stances, he had a great uppercut, and he could go to the body.

Wlad might be able to hit a bag heavier with one straight right hand though, I can agree with that.

 

Toney can't make mw anymore.

He could in the past.

 

He could? Like when

 

How come Wladimir punches harder then Tyson?

 

At 22 against [url]Mike McCallum[/url]

 

they would be respected and do well...to say they dominate is a stretch

 

Was he a HW at 22?

 

Good post.

I agree with everything you've said.

But I think it's a gross exaggeration to suggest that those three fighters would DOMINATE ANY era.

Wlad and Vitali are the kings right now. But as great as they are, this heavyweight era is weak, and that's also played a big part in them being so successful.

Wlad has improved a lot over the years, but by how much?

He was getting stopped by Brewster and Sanders in his late 20's.

He was 27 and 28, at the time of those stoppages, and Sam Peter had him hanging on.

Yet you're telling me that he would have DOMINATED ANY era?

How would he have Dominated Ali, Tyson, Frazier, Foreman, and Holmes all at their best?

Tyson, Frazier and Foreman were more powerful, and they were better fighters.

So I just can't see it.

 

Okay well that's nonsense. Marciano would last 10 at the very least, and more likely the whole 12. But even so, I agree, he'd get battered, and probably wouldn't be able to land anything truly significant.

 

Wlad would not have a prayer against Louis. You've lost it...Wlad had trouble landing clean on Haye... louis would completly bewilder Wlad with movement and wouldn't even need to be in range to connect with a right hand...A one dimensional 1-2 artist cannot compete with one of the smartest ring masters that ever was....And Louis was never one punch ko'd and Wlad never scored a one punch ko...Do your homework Parker.

 

Not so sure about Wlad. his stamina issues would be a serious liability in any era.

 

I am not sure if any top 10 or 15 ATG in history would go 9-0 or 14-0 against all the others on the list. **** happens and sometimes you have a bad day. Cuts happen, injuries happen, etc.

There is a reason only 1 guy has gone undefeated as Heavyweight Champion they all lose at some point. And like Joe Louis said "Father time is undefeated"

 

Parker? Ha! How's it going my man?

Yes, there's no way Wlad could take a right hand from Joe Louis, but I could envisage Wlad just trying to tie him up and hug him in a very ugly fight.

He could have frustrated Louis in my opinion by holding his long left arm out in his face.

There's no way than any of the three fighters mentioned dominate any era in my opinion.

Do you think you could do us a comparison with the 40's and 50's heavies Dino?

I'm out of my depth there.