Looking at Lomachenko's amateur record I notice...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beremith, Aug 12, 2013.


  1. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    That at World Championship and Olympic Games level he was scored far fewer points against in 2008-2009 than in 2011-2012. Strangely enough 2008-2009 was the time he was still a featherweight. In 2011-2012 he fought as a lightweight.

    Does this mean that the opposition he fought at lightweigh in 2011-2012 was that much better than his featherweight days opposition? Or does this mean that featherweight was a better weight for him?

    Here's what I'm talking about:


    World Amateur Championships Results

    2009

    2011




    Olympic Games Results

    2008

    2012





    Also, this:

    European Championships Results

    2008



    The above results were taken from Wikipedia.
     
  2. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lightweight was never his natural weight, he only fought there because they got rid of the 57kg division. He was always outsized at 60kg. Still, he won every single fight he had at lightweight. He'll be a featherweight again as a pro. As someone who has followed him closely I noticed that his motivation to fight decreased when he was a lightweight, he treated it more as a training time for his pro career. Vasyl himself said that the scoring at London went against aggressive fighters so he fought just to get the points to win. You can see the difference in his reactions to winning gold in Beijing and London.
     
  3. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the informative replies! That explained a lot.
     
  4. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's also the level of motivation- I'm not going to suggest Lomachenko didn't want to win these fights, but to me it looked like he knew he could win without showcasing like he did when he won the Val Barker.

    Vasyl's the kind of fighter that needs to be challenged. He was to the point of being able to simply go through the motions and win, and that's one of the surefire ways to stunt a fighter's development. That's a big reason he wants to start off tough in the pros as opposed to racking up 10-20 weaker wins before stepping up.
     
  5. Cletis VanDamme

    Cletis VanDamme Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I bet you had every Cuban being robbed (even though some actually were)
     
  6. RealTalk

    RealTalk Guest

    tbh you are a trolling idiot lomachenko won easily as he always does
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Lomachenko is on the fast track as a pro, world champion in his second fight?!
     
  8. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I started really paying attention to Lomachenko last year, one of the most coordinated, consistent, fast, skilled and focused boxers I've ever seen.
     
  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    time will tell if this kid has the tools to really compete in the Pros. Its a whole different ball game there.
     
  10. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    KTFO in his title defense, 3rd fight..:happy
     
  11. Vinnie Jones

    Vinnie Jones Member Full Member

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    I had the olympics on my TV when Lomachenko was fighting and people who don't even like watch boxing gathered round and were amazed by Lomachenko, they could see he was a very special talent, it's very very rare you come across a fighter with that level of skill.
     
  12. Reggie Kray

    Reggie Kray Guest

    :deal