Looking back on Hatton vs Kostya Tzysu

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  1. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just stumble across the fight on youtube while i was research on Tony Bellow and watched the fight again.

    I was so furious to see how dirty Hatton was against Kostya. Reminded me why i do not like to watch Hatton fights. Every attempt of a attack is off of a clinch. Literally is either attack clinch or after clinch. He was rabbit punching throughout and trying to hold and hit the WHOLE match. And when Kostya accidently hit him a little low and retailated with a Blantantly low blow. The entire match he didn't get warn or deduct a single point even after an obvious low blow. It was very disgusting to watch, i lost count how many rabbit punch attempts.

    For the most part the match was still close dispite of how dirty Hatton was fighting but Kostya's defense just wasn't good enough to deal with Hatton.

    But after the fight I re-watch Floyd vs Hatton just to see how he was able to deal with Hatton's style while Kostya was drowning in it. And i must say that Floyd is really God gifted athlete who just adapt so well to any style but the end of the 2nd round Floyd had a counter for Hatton's tactics and completely netrualized Hatton constant rabbit punching attempts. Floyd was avoiding the rabbit punching too which i thought was amazing but how he was able to see the punches behind him and avoid hurts way and he was out clinching Hatton when he was bum rushing in. And by the 5th round he was timing Hatton as he was coming in almost at will which led to the ko to the turnbuckle it was very satisfying to see it. Especially Hatton had the nerve to complain about FLoyd's tactic/dirty when HE IS ALL DIRTY.
     
  2. SugarShane_24

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    Pretty much sums it up, but you'll just get a "move on" reply in a few moments.
     
  3. HEADBANGER

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    would have been a more interesting fight if it was the same ref as the tyszu fight instead of cortez. one of mayweather best tactics was to duck below the waist, i didn't think that was allowed, but cortez clearly reffed that fight to mayweathers agenda, just like the referee reffed the tyszu fight to hattons agenda. reminds me how all vlad klitchsko fights are always reffed to vlad's agenda where he is allowed to hold all night without so much as a warning.
     
  4. kopejh

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    so fighters have agendas when they come into the ring. fuking dumbass
     
  5. HEADBANGER

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    the refs are the ones with the agenda on how to ref the fight for the home town fighter you gormless ****ing bell end :nut:nut:patsch
     
  6. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BULL**** GUYS


    Did you guys ever watch Kostya fight before ?


    He was real dirty that hatton fight was right down his alley

    he threw people around the ring and ****ed up Mitchells legs doing just that !!!
     
  7. wutang

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    :patsch
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am ok with fighters bending the rules a little as long as they are not flat out abusing it. I did notice floyd duck below the waist a couple of times but come on man Cortez was allowing Hatton to get away with CONSTANT holding and rabbit punching attempts so Hatton can go F**k himself really.
     
  9. PIPO23

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    Watched it and I am convinced hugton is a more exciting version of Abril.If it had gone 12

    rounds and Tszyu won.I would not have any complaints.I hate chronic clinchers.
     
  10. kopejh

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    did you not read your own post???? you said the fighters have an agenda. the fighters aren't stepping in to the ring to give a lecture to the audience.
     
  11. HEADBANGER

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    some of cortez's refereeing that night was blatantly designed to favour floyd though, mayweather should have been warned about continually ducking below the waistline and there were times when cortez was calling clinch before the fighters were even in a clinch. now contrast that refereeing performance to just a few months later when cortez allowed hopkins to hold calzaghe all night long without warning, cortez had clearly changed his methods to favour the home fighter on both occasions.
     
  12. tliang1000

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    I think you need to watch the fight again. Bc There was many clinches attempted by Hatton and handful of ducks by FLoyd. At least Floyd's move is too avoid Hatton cheap sh*t. So props to Floyd for not letting Hatton have his way. If they want a ref to stop all fouls Hatton would be KO in 3 rounds. If he can't clinch he have NO defense or offense.
     
  13. HEADBANGER

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    the refs that i mentioned reffed the fight to the hometown fighters agenda - i.e, cortez would not allow hatton to hold and maul because that tactic was seen as favouring hatton, cortez took a point from a hatton and at times was calling a 'clinch' when the fighters hadn't even clinched.

    a month later, cortez was prepared to let hopkins clinch and maul calzaghe all night without warning to suit the agenda of hopkins because it gave hopkins a better chance of winning.

    every vlad ref allows vlad to jab and grab all night without warning to suit vlads agenda and give him a better chance of winning. a more neutral ref would have given vlad his final warning after 4 rounds, which would force vlad to change his style and fight to a style that doesn't suit his strengths.
     
  14. wutang

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    i don't think he understands that the term "agenda" can be used to describe a persons plan or set of motives. he would just rather belittle and insult people, it's a common theme with him it seems.
     
  15. PIPO23

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    I think there should be a seminar on this and a strict policy should be introduced against chronic clinching.Refs are very inconsistent.It should the same all across the board.Some refs penalizes boxers for holding whilst others let it go on and on.

    Holding is a sign of semi survival and lack of fighting skills.You can hold and punch enough and stay safe to win.But do it too much that means you are trying to survive.Why hold if you are such a bad ass? Holding means there is something lacking in your fight game.

    Like Hopkins is OLD he has to hold Hopkins at his late years has mastered this technique.Abril is just too much of a run and clinch dude must be the technique they teach in Cuba.Hatton can't fight mid range he has no skills so he has to get in the clinch and hit boxers behind the head etc.