Looking back on Hatton vs Kostya Tzysu

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tliang1000, Apr 27, 2012.


  1. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everybody knows and acknowledge this except the brits. :twisted:
     
  2. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah,you really know your stuff.:patsch
     
  3. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did it In order to use Ricky's tactics against him. It's mentally and physically draining when you are getting beat at your own game.

    The bully got bullied.

    I would have to go back and check, but I don't remember Hatton being much of a grappler prior to Tszyu. He seemed to use that tactic just for Tszyu in order to keep close and tire the Old relatively Inactive Champ out. And after that fight, maybe he got this overwhelming feeling that since he beat the Man who was known for his strength and power, that he now is "The Man." And felt his strength was an asset to be used instead of his stamina and intensity to use pressure fighting.
    It caught up with him when he met Floyd.
    You're stronger than Floyd ? not so fast.
     
  4. Rob887

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    It's not a tickling contest.
     
  5. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Castillo, Malignaggi, Maussa, Urango...
     
  6. Hatton was his own worst enemy in that fight.

    He'd convinced himself that Floyd was a little sissy who didn't like pressure, couldn't fight in close and could be roughed up into submission.

    That's despite his trainer going on record as saying that Mayweather was one of the best inside fighters he'd seen live, being very good at covering up and throwing short punches, which Hatton inevitably walked onto.

    By trying to close the distance too much Hatton gave away his best opportunity to do some good work, and allowed Mayweather to dominate him inside.

    I think that's what led to his breakdown, he could probably accept being outboxed, but to be manhandled and beaten up.....

    His ideal range to operate in was mid-range, basically ''Pacquiao range'', but after beating Tszyu it never really seemed to happen again for him save for short spells in fights - such as the first and fifth round against Floyd.

    He tended to win fights on balls alone from then on rather than on his skills, which are pretty underrated. His footwork was superb, he had decent head movement when he was younger and could draw the lead and counter it well too.

    By the time the Americans really saw him at length he was past his best, an ugly hook and wrestle type fighter. Unfortunate really.
     
  7. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why I say always go back prior to Tszyu.

    At the same time, by the time they two met, they were both different. I don't think Floyd was as good at WW as he was below. He didn't quite seem to have the same exact ability he had against Gatti...and especially below with his LW career.
    So it evens out.
     
  8. PolishPummler

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    Castillo - old and shot,moved up in weight,

    Malignaggi Maussa-B level(Ricky's level)

    Urango - B level.

    Ricky also did recieve a few favorable decisions.(Callazo)
     
  9. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    active research on youtube.... and yes i was watching that match with cleverly due to similar opponents. TOny is still too big of a faved imo.
     
  10. Ricky's level?

    Is that why he beat both of them up and won by stoppage?

    A few favourable decisions - you've just named one - in fact the only close decision of his entire career.

    Spastic.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Ricky nodding to the ref when he was ready for a break :lol:

    overall, and by the end, I enjoyed watching Rick though
     
  12. PRPapi2dabone

    PRPapi2dabone I SEE YOU Full Member

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    Ricky was impersonating the Cuban fighting style, punch, hold on for dear life, repeat.
     
  13. Zeno

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    I will watch Floyd - Hatton again
     
  14. aussie opinion

    aussie opinion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would of been a better fight if kostya's last fight wasn't over a yr ago
     
  15. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    hattons footwork is massively underated.