Looking closely at Wilder Ortiz scorecards

I think it was 2-2 after 4 rounds. The rest of the rounds were easy to score as they were pretty decisive to each fighter, the only round that might have been tricky was rd 7 as you could make a case it was 10-8.

 

I couldn’t help but laugh when I saw the judges had Wyler ahead at the stoppage; that was a joke

 

All three judges had it 10-8 for Ortiz in round 7.

 

I gave Wilder 2 and 3, Ortiz 1 and 4.

OP, watch the second round and tell me the basis for giving it to Ortiz. Wilder’s jab was the difference.

 

it was clear Ortiz was getting screwed if he made it 12 rounds.. real shame.. first kov/ward 1 then GGG/canelo and now this.. its total bs how the A side always gets saved lately.

 

When they gave Wilder extra recovery time after the 7th round ended I knew then it was a fix. Ortiz should have known too and gone for the kill immediately.

Heck if Ortiz won they probably would have failed him on a drugs test.

The promotors and governing bodies really want the AJ fight for the big $$$$ it will generate.

Anyone else is in the way.

 

After 6, the most generous you could be to Wilder while still being reasonable would be to give him a 57-56 lead. I had it 57-56 Ortiz, because I had the Cuban winning rounds 1-4 and Wilder winning rounds 5-6 + the knockdown (I could understand giving Wilder one of the first 4, however, hence the 57-56 either way).

After 9, the most generous you could be to Wilder while still being reasonable would be to have it 85-85 even. I had it 86-84 to Ortiz.

So there's no reasonable way to have Wilder ahead going into the 10th. The official scorecards are horrid.

That said, Wilder could still have won on a reasonable scorecard if the bout had gone the distance. If he wins rounds 10-12 with no knockdowns scored, he wins the fight 115-112 (if you were a little generous to him in the early rounds) or 114-113 (if, like me, you had Ortiz shutting him out through the first 4).


Sidenote -- FWIW, I didn't think the 7th warranted a 10-8.

 

I thought Ortiz won more rounds than scored. What a fight. It started slow but I enjoyed even that.

I was on the edge of my seat, a legendary fight. Heavyweight boxing is back.

 

Ortiz should've been at least 5-4 up in rounds after 9, if not 6-3. Wilder 5-4 ahead is all but indefensible.

However, robbery wasn't necessarily a given with Wilder being the less weary of the two going into rounds 10-12. If Wilder had swept those by 10-9 scores, he could've outpointed Ortiz legitimately.

 

Rewatching it now:

First minute: Ortiz lands two jabs to the body. Wilder lands one jab to the body and three jabs to the head, two of which are snapping and solid.

Then ref misses knockdown (Wilder lands a jab which causes Ortiz slip). No effect on scoring.

Immediately after that, sloppy exchange as Wilder rushes in — he lands two punches (neither clean) and Ortiz misses a left counter.

They separate and settle down. Wider snaps a jab, which again lands cleanly.

Ortiz lands a reaching, barely-brushing the target left to the body as Wilder pulls back.

Nothing else lands in the second minute.

So I can’t see how Ortiz has landed anything of consequence yet and Wilder has landed a few snappy jabs through two minutes and a sloppy combo.

Wilder jab to the body, a little later Ortiz with a solid jab to the head as we go down to 40 seconds.

Ortiz with a left hand as Wilder backs into corner ... “appears” to land on the chest but you see in replay after the round that it hit only Wilder’s elbow. Had some steam on it, but not a scoring punch.

Ortiz left to the head barely grazes and Wilder misses a wild right as we go under 20 seconds.

Then we get the 10-second warning bang on the canvas.

Wilder jab. Ortiz jab counter falls short (see replay at end of round). Right before the bell, Wilder lands a cuffing left hook and a right, cuffing but both landed.

I cannot see really a single effective punch by Ortiz in this round. No way he won the round IMO.

 

Ortiz won the first four rounds.

 

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Wilder 10-8
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Ortiz (10-9 for me but 10-8 judges)
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7-2 Ortiz at worst 6-3

Their is NO WAY Wilder should of been up on the cards and the fact all 3 judges had just that shows the cards were written in advance. I'm glad Wilder ko'd him cause I would of been sick after Kovalev Ward 1 I wouldn't be able to tolerate this