Looking For Classic Opinions On Today's Top 4 vs Some Past Greats...

I left out how Hopkins would do against Jose Torres. I haven't seen enough of Jose to offer an opinion as of right now. Anyone have any ideas on that one?

 

In terms of Middleweight greats i would have Tiger slightly ahead of Hopkins in terms of resume. However i think Hopkins makes up for it by being better in a head to head sense but it is alot closer.

If they fought each other. I think Hopkins could eke a decision. Tiger liked to come forward, put on pressure with a high guard and looked to counter and was hugely strong upclose.

Hopkins is really clever and cagey. Has great boxing skills combined with a boxing brain among the top echelon of greats.

In the early roundsI see Tiger stalking Hopkins as he usually did. With Hopkins giving feints to make Tiger lead and counter him. Tiger then wisens up to this and starts to make this an inside war. Hopkins was skilled on the inside and tricky as hell so he might negate Tigers inside fighting.

This makes the fight in the balance coming down the home stretch where i think Hopkins starts to move and box and take it back to a boxing match. Instead of feinting and drawing in Tiger he tries to beat him to the punch then move away. I think he could just sneak it on an SD with Tiger feeling aggrieved and fans split down the middle.

So does that answer your question.

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2.Who was the more skilled fighter: Floyd Mayweather Jr or Jose Napoles?
I'll put it this way its similar to Mannasa's ideas.

Jose has the more 'old school' skills. He was a master at feinting and body punching (especially countering with a right to the body. These were well suited to the more tactical 15 round distance.

Mayweather has the skills adjusted for the modern game as it is more of a sprint. Speed is more important and feinting and body punching generally have faded away abit.

Hope thats answers your question.

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3.Whose weight-jumping achievements are better: Manny Pacquiao or Thomas Hearns?

What Manny Pacquiao has done is simply phenomenal. He has held Linear titles in 5 weight classes which is unheard off. Ranging from Flyweight to Light Welter Weight which is even more unheard off. He proved countless people wrong again and again and is a sure fire ATG.

Thomas Hearns has done amazing things in jumping in weight from Welter to Cruiser. However he only held Lineaage in one weight class (i might be wrong) Light Middleweight. So every other weight he just beat a top contender (i dont recognise belts now). Which is still an amazing achievement but it has been done since and i dont think it is as hard as a leap from Flyweight to Light Welterweight.

But it is close.

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4.Who ranks higher in the all-time Mexican list: Juan Manuel Marquez or Ricardo Lopez?
Juan Manuel Marquez. He has the better names on his resume. I felt he beat Manny Pacquaio twice and Chris John.

The Pacquiao wins are huge as Manny has established himself as a sure fire ATG. Marquez should also be that he is as good as Manny. Just hasnt got the same breaks.

Ricardo Lopez was dominate at Minimumweight and is the best ever there but its a shallow division and he never proved himself in the way Marquez did

 

ALmost going to sleep ill be back in detail tomorrow but here are my picks
Hopkins
Hard to say im leaning towards May but Napoloes has the bigger equalizer could go either way. Ask me after May1st.
This is very close but im leaning towards Pac from fly to Welter is a little more impressive than Welter to LH.
LOPEZ!!!!!!! Im a big Marquez fan but this one was the easiest answer.

 

Why d'ya keep bumping really old threads Anarci From posters that are no longer even here

I'd have Marquez above Lopez, not quite as beautiful to watch but thats what happens when you fight the better opposition IMO.

 

Cause im getting tired of a lot of these other threads Im ready to go to sleep and dont feel like putting up my own right now.

Even though i rate Lopez higher than Marquez, i do think Marquez is really underrated and a top 70 atg.

 

1. Probably Hopkins but that ones very close in my book

2. Mayweather by a landslide - one of the greatest ever I think

3. Manny Pac - but love both - two of my favourite fighters ever

4. Probably Lopez but like Hopkins & Tiger not much in it

 

Noone in the history of the sport was more skilled than Napoles "by a landslide", if even at all. He was about as well rounded, mentally sound and well schooled a fighter as there can be. His only weakness was his tendancy to cut. His versatility gives him the clear edge over Mayweather, IMO.

 

The answer should be Napoles by a land slide. Once we distinguish speed from skill, the answer is easy.