Looks like Kessler has no interest in fighting Bute

calzaghe vs. Kessler was very hard to make and yet it was made.

Kessler is the best fight available for Bute except for the winner of the s6. In money terms, Kessler is probably THE biggest payday for Bute.

But Bute is also the best fight available for Kessler, except for the winner of the s6. And also, in money terms, given that Ward or Froch don't draw what Bute does, Bute would probably be Kessler's biggest payday too.

So I don't see why this fight should be impossible to make.

It's risk/reward. Sauerland wants a lot less reward for a hell of a lot less risk in going the Stieglitz route, rather than the Bute route. But what it will mean is that if Bute stays unbeaten, he'll get a shot at the winner of the s6 before Kessler does

And we all know that this is not what Kessler himself wants....

 

We already know you are wrong.

Bute fighting the super 6 winner in USA is already written in his contract.

 

Haters would get bored of hating alone if they had no one take notice of their hating.... and there would be a lot less hate.

 

I am quite sure, that they asked. There are many ways to say no. Asking for to much money is one of them.

I have a meeting with Chris Meyer in a couple of weeks. I will ask him, though there is no warranty for an answer ;-)

 

When negotiations happen and things don't go perfectly fine, promoters use the media to put pressure on the other party. That's what happened with calz kess for example.

Interbox just put pressure on the Kessler camp to come up with a better offer. Ball's in Sauerland's camp and they are leaving the field, jumping in the arms of Stieglitz, pretending Bute doesn't exist.

If Interbox made an offer that was too low, no problem, Sauerland need to make a better offer in return. Simples. Then, Interbox either improve their offer or they STFU.

But at the moment, Interbox, not Sauerland have the moral high ground here.

It it them preventing the fight from happening, not Interbox... for the best reason in the world, of course - risk/reward. (Boxing is a business).:good

 

Or maybe Sauerland doesn't want any part of Bute right now; i would believe and understand if it is so. Saying Stieglitz is as good as Bute is plain and simple BS. I would also understand if Kessler would get more money and exposure but i also doubt both.

 

Calzaghe-Kessler was made, but W@rren lost money on the fight - 500.000£. They had also troubles about the time of the fight. It was fought 1:30 local time, and that was a mistake. W@rren should have ignored the american market. He would have sold much more tickets, if it had been fought three hours earlier.

Remember Denmark and UK are very close. I and a lot of danes went to Cardiff.

A fight at 5 am i Denmark can't really be sold PPV with succes. So there is a clear diiference.

 

It can be sold PPV in Canada with success prime time in Montreal and East Cost USA - on EST. Bute is lucky because of where he's based. But ultimately it all comes down to money and risk/reward.

It doesn't matter why Sauerland cannot make Bute a better offer than the one Interbox can make Kessler. Ultimately, what matters is what the offers are and the risk/reward as perceived by the two parties concerned.

 

Big difference being not the mando status but the timezones I think. Not easy to travel across the atlantic. You need quite a reward for doing it. Besides who knows how much Interbox really offered?

 

If you're Stieglitz manager, what would you do? If it goes to purse bid, and it will if Stieglitz refuses all Sauerland offers, he gets 75% of the purse. To convince Stieglitz not to go to purse bid, Sauerland would have to offer him A LOT of money.

I feel Stieglitz will make things hard for Kessler. He may try an optional fight before he faces his mandatory (his promoter is also German, don't expect him to let Sauerland do all the politics alone).

 

I doubt that. Showtime is not a promotor and certainly not in a position to make such a promise.

 

Stieglitz is nowhere near the fighter Bute is. And I don't see anyone claiming that.

If you ask hardcore fans like the ones in this forum, everybody would like a fight between Bute and Kessler over a fight between a Kessler vs Stieglitz fight. But most casual fans can't see the big difference. And when 20.000 comes to a fight, there may only be a couple of thousand hardcore fans.

The negotiations between promotors are often a tactical play. At times it is negotiations where neither part wants the fight to happen. Interbox has been doing better here. They look more as those who wants the fight. But I don't think, that any of the parts wanted the fight at this time. It makes more sense some time in the future.

 

I think that if the fight isnt made before purseoffers, Kessler will forfeit his status as mando as there's no way he'll accept a 25% cut.

As Stieglitz manager I'd weigh my options on a gold scale. Should I take the big payday against Kessler with a big risk of losing the title, or continue to fight lesser fighters for less money but with a bigger chance of keeping the belt.

High risk/high reward or low risk/low reward?

 

Nope. It makes perfect sense fore Bute to fight Kessler now. This is because he wants to prove that he is the best SMW in the world. Kessler and then the winner of the s6.

Kessler already knows/thinks he isn't/may not be the best SMW in the world. Maybe that is why he sees the risk/reward equation differently.

 

Yes. It may depend on their perception of how good Kessler was against Bouadla.