Looks like Kessler has no interest in fighting Bute

Sauerland is a much more powerful promoter than SES
SES will have to agree to Sauerlands terms, accept Stieglitz´ time is over and catch a resonable purse and give them the belt. Stieglitz is no decent draw SES will never outbid Sauerland. In case it goes to pursebid Sauerland could bid lets say 2 millions just as an example. so they have to pay 1.5 millions to Stieglitz respectively SES boxing. But they´ll sell the fight to their channel ARD, Showtime, maybe put it on ppv in Denmark, UK tv etc sell out some decent venue in Denmark or Germany and maybe generate lets say 6 millions so at the end of the day they´re still making far more money than Stieglitz. SES couldn´t even afford the WBA sanction fees when they wanted to stage that Sartison vs Stieglitz "unification"

 

:blood:huh

Anyway i will be glad if Kessler bang my GF :yep

 

So basically you are saying that Sauerland will bid less than what the fight would generate?

I suppose thats possible, but why would Sauerland say that the fight in all likelyhood would go ahead in Germany?? Perhaps it's a ploy in order to be able to give the danish fans a pleasant and 'unexpected' surprise, when it becomes clear that the fight will take place in Denmark after all, despite Sauerlands earlier statements to the contrary.

 

Kessler is well known in Germany probably better than Stieglitz. Hes been in the S6 and fought Beyer and Haussler. Danish fans are probably rather willing to travel than Stieglitz´fans. Maybe they just think it´d sell better in Germany. They got a huge advantage in that fight and thats Mikkel Kessler they don´t need any further. Even if Stieglitz gets those judges and the referee Bute has reserved in case Kessler came to Canada Stieglitz will still loose...

 

Sauerland said yesterday that Stieglitz has a good TV contract. That gives him a lot of money, if it's true.

If Sauerland wins the purse bid, I can't see a reason to make the fight in Germany.

 

Yeah, that was priceless. In the first 4 rounds Kessler was all business and at the end of the fight he was like a lamb ready to be sacrificed.

BEFORE:

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AFTER (I'll kick his ass anywhere FACE):

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SES TV contract with RTL may be good, but no way near the value of Sauerlands deal with ARD.


Damn. So many questions still.......

 

The way that purseoffers are handled is like this: They offer fx 2 mill. $ for the fight. That gives 1.5 mill. for Stieglitz/Steinforth and 500 K for Kessler. But they just agree with Kessler, that he get fx 2 mill. and pays 1.5 besides the purseoffer.

Yes, Steiglitz and Steinforth has an "ok" tv-contract in Germany, but not nearly as good as Sauerland. Probably something clearly less than half as good. So something less than 1 mill. $.

Besides the tv-market in Denmark is limited, when it comes to solid commercial stations. TV2 is by far the biggest. It is six times as big as number two TV3. Sauerland has a long-term contract with TV2 so they are kind of blocked for Steinforth. So the value of the danish TV-rights are way higher for Sauerland. So are the german tv-rights. So Sauerland will have a very good position for the negotiations.

 

Sauerlands gets far more money per show from their house channel ARD but they air only 10 shows per year. Stieglitz got a tv contract as well but gets far less money. maybe they´d open the pocket a little more for that Kessler fight however if an agreement can be reached Sauerland would maybe prefer the fight to be on Stieglitz´channel because its additional money for them. It´d be not the best thing for Kessler but for Sauerland

 

You are all taking like Stieglitz is eager to fight Kessler; i tell you, he's as eager as Kessler wanting to fight Bute; Stieglitz is not going to be a easy sell

 

Well it depends, if Stieglitz gets Butes homer ref from the first Andrade fight, he cant lose, even if ko'ed, the ref will stall the count, by claiming Kessler isnt far enough away and if Stieglitz still doesnt beat the count, he will just DQ Kessler for not hugging the neutral corner.

 

Kessler is his mandatory. He can't fight any other than Kessler without giving up his title. Without his title he really can't get much for a fight.

 

Than Kessler should be mentally ready to make love to the neutral corner during the count.

 

He can pretend to be injured and postponed the fight, hoping that Kessler will go for Bute's IBF belt.

 

Lol, I wonder if that ref has ever stopped a count when Bute floored an opponent and started claiming Bute wasnt close enough to the neutral corner, I doubt it tbh. Guess hugging that corner only apply when its the home favourite thats in trouble.

Ok seriously, to be fair I see Bute as the best or 2nd best (depends on Ward) SMW right now. I just wish he had never gotten that robbery in the first Andrade fight, it would have made his destruction of Andrade in the rematch so much better, and honestly would the loss in the first fight have made him a worse boxer? No, it would have meant he had lost his 0 though, but way too much is put into those undefeated perfect records nowadays imo.
Afterall, Lewis, Klitschkos, Pacquiao and most of the ATGs all had defeats, but they are still as great. A defeat doesnt tarnish your rep as much as a robbery-win, just see Ottke.