Looks like Khan will fight Katsidis next

i know!!

marquez lost to the p4p best fighter in the world, no shame in that

marquez was the one who gave khans new step daddy pac all he could handle.

 

Marquez is also the guy who struggled with a one-dimensional Juan Diaz at 135. Don't get me wrong, he's still a threat at 135 but it's not a great weight for him. Boxing4eva is correct in saying that Marquez's trainer rejected the fight for those reasons. His trainer all but said that himself. He was right. Goldenboy don't give a **** about Marquez. Khan is seen as their new goldenboy and they wanted to feed a fat Marquez to a young, hungry 140 pounder in Khan. Nacho was smart enough to realise this and stopped it going ahead. At 140, Khan would dominate him, I don't care how much more skilled Marquez is. Khan is too big for a guy that would looked bloated at 147 and wouldn't look much better at 140.

 

Yeah he did, but i'm not talking about the Marquez of 2008. If you think Marquez Vs Khan would be anything but a repetition of last September,if not worse, then your deluding yourself. A year is a long time when your the wrong side of 35 and took 12 rounds of Floyd

 

one dimensional diaz?

diaz outboxed katsidis, i dont think a one dimensional fighter knows how to do that.

and how exactly did marquez struggle?

he lost the first 2 or 3 rounds and then went on to knock diaz out.

 

marquez didn't even take much damage from floyd

marquez put up a better fight than mosley and stayed in there.

 

They rejected the fight with Khan, that says all that needs to be said on the subject.

 

Yes he's one-dimensional, I stand by that. Katsidis is a pressure fighter and not the hardest guy to outbox.

Marquez was badly hurt and was almost dropped by Diaz. I don't have a scorecard but I know he lost more than 2 or 3 rounds and if you look at the official cards, one judge had it for Diaz by a point, one had it to Marquez by a point, and the other had it a draw. It was good of him to knock him out in the end but it wasn't convincing.

Against Floyd at 147 he looked pregnant. How is he gonna be much better at 140 against a younger fighter who has all those physical advantages?

 

I think it's a sweeping statement to assume that Khan beats Marquez because Mayweather did.

Marquez would easily be the hardest, most accurate puncher Khan has faced to date, Malignaggi landed a couple of good shots when Khan bumrushed in the early rounds - if Khan was as careless against Marquez he'd be laid out.

There would be nothing to stop Marquez coming in at 137-138 rather than going all the way up to 140, and re-hydrate to a decent weight for him rather than trying to make himself bigger artificially.

 

marquez was NEVER badly hurt or almost dropped by diaz, you are making this up as you go along.

diaz landed a good left hook which rocked marquez and made marquez stumble back but immediately after marquez landed a 4 punch combo on diaz from the ropes.

and who cares what a judge thinks when the fight only went 6 rounds?

 

140lb isn't 147 first of all

second it wasn't mayweathers physical advatnages that beat him it was mayweathers defense, marquez couldn't gt passed the shoulder roll.

 

It's not because of What Mayweather did, it's because of how he's looked above 130 pounds and the way he performed against Juan Diaz.

Malignaggi may have landed some good shots against Khan but there's no way you can go a fight without taking a few shots. Khan still has faults but he's a safety first fighter now and I don't think Marquez has the speed to take advantage of the much fewer opportunities Khan presents these days. Add to that the advantages in height, reach, speed, strength and probably stamina, plus the fact that Marquez is even older now and coming off a comprehensive loss, I doubt this fight would be much more competetive than Mayweather. Marquez only moved up in weight to chase a third fight with Pac, but it's clear that only one of those two fighters was suited to higher weights.

 

I think stoppages over Diaz and Casamayor are impressive, to be perfectly honest.

Neither had ever looked like being stopped before and haven't since really.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting Khan has no chance with Marquez, but I definitely wouldn't make him the favourite in that one.

 

I don't have to make anything up. If you can't see that Marquez is a much lesser fighter since he moved up in weight then you're ignoring the facts. When Nacho Beistein himself advised Juan to not take the fight because he knew what would happen, why can't you see it?

The fight went 9 rounds actually and you say I'm making stuff up?

 

Waste of time. Fight the bigger version of him in Maidana.

 

Fair enough, if Khan was still at lightweight I'd give Marquez a much better chance.