Looks like Mundine-Kessler II wont ever happen

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  1. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surprise, surprise

    HE BOASTS of never having dieted before a fight, but Anthony Mundine will have to replace the hamburgers with health shakes for his planned drop to the middleweight ranks.
    The WBA super-middleweight champion fights Sam Soliman for the third time next month, and has been ordered to defend his title against Mikkel Kessler three months later.
    However, Mundine is contemplating a move down to the middleweight division where American stars Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright and Jermain Taylor make for tantalising big-money fights. Mundine needs exposure to the American audience in order to further his appeal and pulling power; one of those names on his list of victims would make Mundine a genuine global star.
    "I've never had to diet for a fight, I love my fried chicken and my hamburgers too much," Mundine, 32, said. "But you look at the top guys I have fought in the super-middleweight division: Mikkel Kessler was much bigger than me, Danny Green was much bigger than me, Manny Siaca was much bigger than me.
    "[Roy Jones snr] believes I will be a monster down in middleweight. I believe I will be faster, I will be lighter, I will hold my strength, my power down there, and I'll be a lot more dangerous. And the fighters I will be fighting won't be as big."
    The super-middleweight division is dominated by Europeans, with Welshman Joe Calzaghe the undisputed ruler of the class - although he could forfeit three belts if he defeats Bernard Hopkins in a light-heavyweight contest this weekend. While Mundine would ideally love a shot at Calzaghe, he admits the obscurity of his name in American boxing circles puts him down the pecking order on the champion's wish list.
    "[The WBA] mandated Kessler to fight me after Soliman, so we have to look at that and see whether it is a financially viable and good business choice to fight, or do we go to middleweight and look for a big opportunity," Mundine said.
    He returned to Sydney on Tuesday from a month-long training sojourn in the United States with Roy Jones jnr and his father, Roy Jones snr. Yesterday, he gave boxing tips to Home and Away actor, Mark Furze, in his Redfern gym as part of the National Careers Development Week campaign (ncdw.com.au). While he is excited by the prospect of becoming a multi-division champion, Mundine said he was not overlooking his May 28 bout against Soliman in Melbourne.
    "I want to bring an axe to a mosquito. I will win, that's in no doubt. It's just a matter of how I win. I want to be destructive, I want to be as dominant as I can."
     
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  2. IrnBruMan

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    So how does he hope to secure a fight with Pavlik, Winky or Taylor then?
     
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  3. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i know its a joke if he wants to start to make a name in America he would want to fight Kessler... Im not saying Kesslers a huge name but he after the Calzaghe and Andrade fights he is alot more known and it would be a step in the right direction... Unless Choc thinks he can get a few fights on Roy jones undercards and make a name? I dont friggin know... Dont forget hes 33 in May to
     
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  4. the beaver

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    Kessler already beat him comfortably, why go down that path again. Besides he admits that guys like Kessler are too big for him.

    Take on a top 15 middleweight on a RJJ card sounds ok to me if it's done only a couple of months after the soliman fight.
     
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  5. PorkChopExpress

    PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe Full Member

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    If you gonna do it, just do it already and start fighting someone!!!
     
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  6. sambo1987

    sambo1987 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fight manfredo, seems like everyone uses this guy as a scalp these days.. Poor bloke..
     
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  7. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No point in fighting Kess again....but I dont see the big names in MW giving Mundine a shot for a long time.
     
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  8. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    :lol: Every division has one of those.
     
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  9. ajay11

    ajay11 Original Convict Full Member

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    Depends on who's promoting and what type of assurance his opponent gets. For example, if the fight was as part of a Roy Jones Jr Card then he may get someone decent if they were offered decent money due and good exposure, especially if there's a lack of quality fighters available AND they believe that they can win.

    The best fighters don't have super bouts every fight.
     
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  10. Dojo

    Dojo The Animal Full Member

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    I'm sure if Choc vacates the 168 belt that the WBA will have him in the top 5 at 160. So I guess he's wanting a bout v Sturm, which is a very winnable fight for him. Can't see him losing it, even in Germany. But if on the other hand he starts fighting cans at 160, then he rightly should be ridiculed.
     
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  11. oztriker

    oztriker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I still figure that he will have to work his way to Mandatory before he gets to fight Sturm....Which could take years....and no guarantee that Pavlik doesn't unify first
     
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  12. WhataRock

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    Now that Abraham is fighting over in the U.S against Miranda, and more than likely fighting his mandatory Lorezno after that. Clearly setting up a fight with Pavlik maybe at the end of the year, maybe at the start of next year.

    I would say Sturm isnt in anyones sites and he will be content to fight the level of fighters he has been fighting lately. Though I say he fights Sylvester next, a fellow German who just won an eliminator.
    Choc will get a good ranking, that might be all he needs. He only needs to give Sturm a solid offer and the title is as good as his.
    If he needs to get to the mandatory status, Im sure he could easily buy a fighter ahead of him and manipulate his old mates at the WBA.

    One thing however, Im very sure I read that AA's team offered Sturm 1.5 million Euros for a fight and Sturm basically said "Ill get back to you", so Abraham went somewhere else. 1.5million euros = 2.5 million AUD. Which is a probably even out of Choc's reach, as he is used to only forking out $40-50k.
    If Sturm can afford to basically knockback offers like that, then Choc may find it hard and might have to work for the title or look elsewhere.
     
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  13. Barge FTA

    Barge FTA Active Member Full Member

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    he'll go down to middleweight and do the same things he has done at super middle. he'll never step up, Khoder "Al Quida" Nasser wont allow it.
     
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  14. Kegsy

    Kegsy Lights Out Full Member

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    :lol:
    Thats classic.
    Al Quida....Wonder wat 1 of the Mundine nuthuggers has to say.
     
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  15. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    Well Barge has a point. If you dont risk your cash cow at 168 then you wont risk your cash cow at 160.
     
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