Looks like Roach is making a big mistake: Agreeing to train to many fighters...

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  1. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Funny how overrated trainers get. I remember when Buster Douglas beat Tyson his trainer became well enough known. Roach is overrated. It is almost an insult on Pacman to say Roach is the reason he is winning. Pacman won his last two fights because he knocked the guys out. With Cotto he won with heart and speed and perseverance.
     
  2. mking

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    Doesnt matter, when he trains Pac all focus is on him.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Germany makes no sense! I realize it's Sturm's biggest market, but Felix said he wanted to fight in the USA, and wanted a shot at Pavlik. The offer HBO made earlier this year for Pavlik/Sturm was a freaking insult to both fighters, but they low-balled it because Sturm is virtually unknown in the states.
     
  4. Fullhouse

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    The source states that Winky Wright is a possible opponent for Sturm´s next fight. Maybe this could be a key to the US-market for him, but Sturm also says, that Roach is coming to germany, so we will see what happens. Maybe Sturm faces Gennady Golovkin in Germany first and then he will try to go to the US for a bigger fight?!

    It´s also said that Sturm asks Sdunek first to train him, but Sdunek wasn´t interested and Sturm was going for Roach then.
     
  5. Danny

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    Yes it would be, but I will be surprised if Haye ever parts company with Adam Booth! They are not just trainer/manager & boxer, they are very close friends, like family!

    Booth comes across as a guy who not ashamed or apprehensive to seek help or advice if he feels he needs to, so that could be a reason as to why they have approached Roach! Maybe Adam feels Roach can add something, give some good input, etc.
     
  6. TheGreat

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    Sturm is a bum, Roach should just stick to real fighters.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Please list all the bums who held a middleweight title 3 times.

    I'll wait.
     
  8. TheGreat

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    First of all WBOGUS doesn't count #2 he never beat the champ so they probably had him win it against some bum, # 3 he got KTFO by a 40 yr old shot fighter and got his 3rd false reign by beating said shot fighter, Pavlik is the real champ. Calling Sturm a 3 time champ just shows how much damage the ABC belts do, what a joke.
     
  9. USboxer1981

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    You're dumb , you really have no clue what you're talking about.. Anyone who has ever actually trained before knows how good roach is...

    And if you also knew anything, you would know that during their planned 10 week training (half will be in the Philippines) his focus will be only on pacman, not sturm or haye.


    Your trying to say that when Pacman is all over the phillipines, hanging out with political figures, making movies, singing songs , etc.. that Roach is supposed to just lay at home thinking about pacquiao? He lives for boxing and training and thats what he does all day everyday. He says its the only thing that gives him true relief of his symptoms. And don't forget, these fighters are coming to him, he is not going around begging for new fighters to train.
     
  10. Spud565

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    I think he will work with Hayemaker in an advisory role, not as the mian trainer! He will probably look at videos of opponents and give his opinion, Booth will probably remain the main trainer!
     
  11. booradley

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    Nice attempt at a diversion. Sturm is a 3 time world title holder at 160. I'm still waiting for your list of "bums" who accomplished that.
     
  12. MAG1965

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    All trainers who do this for a living live for boxing and training- go to any gym. Roach is overrated. I say it again. Once a fighter gets to this elite level someone like Roach is overrated. Most of them are. Angelo Dundee was not a great trainer or cornerman with Ray. Your blowing it son? Ray hurt Hearns and that is why he pored it on in the 13th. Trainers earn getting where they are with one or two fighters and then everyone wants them. You want to be sold on trainers and not fighters go ahead, but the fighters are the great ones here. Manny Steward did develop Hearns, but once Tommy fought Hagler he would have done the same with or without Steward-although Steward is greater than Roach. I always Roach as an overrated fad among trainers. Just a fad like most top trainers are. Put Juan Diaz with Roach and Diaz still losses to Malinaggi.