Looks like the Canelo Vs GGG fight is not happening and im so happy great news

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Tyson Fury Goat, May 26, 2018.


  1. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Let canelo fight Jacobs and saunders for much less money look and just as risky to lose

    Jacobs fight wont even break 400,000 buys and Jacobs has every chance to win LOL

    Golovkin should go after saunders and unify of fight his ibf mando

    Golovkin has to concede to everything in first fight and second fight until canelo failed 2 tests he is an cheater and should be banned both should go different directions

    Golovkin beat a drugged canelo easy first time despite being out of prime anyway
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree. IF Goloking can't get the 50/50 offer that he deserves.

    Then he could accept the original offer.

    Of 60/40 split.

    But with one condition and that Clenelo gets drug tested daily or weekly leading up to the fight.

    It seems the Clenelo fan boys are getting ahead of themselves and have tried to sweep the drug issue under the rug.

    Talking like it's OK to let a drug cheat fight and that the cheat even deserves to receive the biggest lump sump of the purse.

    IS RIDICULOUS TALK.
     
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  3. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    the original offer is not 60-40

    its 80-20 to canelo and GGG accepted it before
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Simple question : if he was drugged for the first fight than how did he pass all those random VADA tests?
     
  5. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    they didn't test him ever while he was in mexico they always tested him while he came to vegas the last time when he got busted they turned up at his place in mexico

    He normally cycles of before he leaves mexico
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't have any inside information as far as how often he was being tested before the first fight, or how long he was in Mexico between the Chavez and GGG fights, or whether VADA was testing him if he was in Mexico. It's hard to just take your word for it with all the ridiculous things you stated in the OP.

    But regardless, he was certainly getting tested in the weeks leading up to the first fight, during fight week and on the day of the fight. So you can't say he was drugged up when he was enrolled in VADA and testing clean surrounding the first fight.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I also find it hard to believe that (like you are suggesting) VADA didn't go to Mexico last summer to test him before the first fight, but then all of a sudden decided to start going to Mexico for tests this past February.

    I know that fits your theory that he was cycling and got caught, but without Canelo ever having failed a drug test up to that point, why would VADA suddenly decide to change their policy about going to Mexico to test fighters there?
     
  8. N17

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    Canelo doesn't need Golovkin or anybody to generate money, that's not really in dispute in my opinion, Canelo will always earn well.

    But the Golovkin fight is probably the biggest out there for him right now.

    What Canelo does need Golovkin for is to try and restore some of his reputation, the vast majority of people believed he lost the first fight and since then he has been banned for failing drug tests.

    The suspicion of being juiced up in the first fight will hang over him forever, it's a tainted performance so Canelo was the one who needed to set the record straight.

    We've all seen the recent pictures of him and how much different he looks after he has errr stopped eating Mexican Beef, it's looking worse the longer it goes.

    Golovkin will move on and be in good fights and win, lose or draw he will be in big fights and be regarded as Number 1 until he gets beaten.

    Canelo isn't fighting Golovkin, Team Canelo said they don't want to fight BJS because he is a "runner", basically they don't fancy that so Canelo will be without a title, tainted by failed drug tests and will have to sell fights like Spike.
     
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  9. PIPO23

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    I do not want to get into Mexico and drugs. I might get banned again.

    But it's clear as day that Oscar's company have always been involved in drugs.

    The head of the snake Dela Hoya was heavily into it, admittedly.

    Now his employee, clenelo.

    WBC head quarters in Mexico. Sulaiman is protecting Cuadras and he has always supported caught drug cheats.

    Factor in a long list of positive results from Boxers from Mexico.

    You see the tracks, trails and evidence leading us to believe something is fishy.

    NSAC allows these drug cheats to fight. Because they are into the money side of things.

    As you can see why drugs are a big problem because of the head office are never into quelling the problem or nip it at the bud.

    Just profits and winning at any cost.

    In fact they are protecting them.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    Up until this part I agreed with what you were saying. Here's where your argument falls off a cliff and your Golovkin bias kicks in.

    How is it a tainted performance when he was enrolled in VADA, getting randomly tested by VADA and passing all VADA tests leading up to and surrounding the first fight?

    This is where you expose yourself as someone who cannot be taken seriously, with comments like this. You hurt your own credibility with comments like this, this shows without a shadow of a doubt that you are not seeing things clearly and are speculating on things that you want to believe because it suits your agenda.

    When you are away from training camp for 2 months, it's normal for your body to not look as jacked or as chiseled as it does when you are training or in fight week. When Canelo goes back into training, you'd expect his body to look more fight ready. None of this is unusual. Look at Mikey Garcia, did you see his body since his last fight? Fighters don't look as jacked when they are not in training camp. This is perfectly normal, it's only suspicious to you because you are hugely anti-Canelo and when it comes to Canelo, every ripple in the water is the loch ness monster.

    Of course we know you're praying that Golovkin ducks a Canelo rematch because you're terrified of a Canelo rematch, deep down you know Canelo will out perform Golovkin again the 2nd time round like he did in the first fight only more convincingly and this time the judges won't bail Golovkin out with a gift draw to let him keep his titles lol. It's so funny reading your posts because I can sense the fear in you just by reading your comments about how much you are praying the rematch doesn't happen.

    You mean you don't want Canelo to fight Golovkin. Canelo has made Golovkin an offer, Golovkin disagreed with the terms and made counter-demands to which Canelo agreed to lol, and reports came out that Golovkin doesn't want to fight Canelo anymore and he keeps jerking Golden Boy around.

    So lets be clear : As it stands Golovkin is ducking Canelo. And fanboys like you come on here and try to defend it. It's very cowardly for you to be defending such ducking !
     
  11. vargasfan1985

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    Clenelo will take multiple L’s against any elite MW, to include BJS, DJ or Charlo.

    Let him fight them, cause I’ll leave this forum forever if he takes more than 1 of those 3 guys.
     
  12. Dirsspaardis

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    Great. If true.
    Time to move on, money is good and all but theres a list of things to be done so Golovkin better get cracking.
     
  13. james5000

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    Canelo should definitely fight Spike

    Firstly it will draw a lot of criticism, hate sells ppv, Canelo sells them too. If Canelo makes GGG wait a little longer it will only make GGG fans more desperate to see the rematch.

    Secondly GGG went to school with Moses, and his teacher was a real life dinosaur. GGG is old I tell you and is deteriorating by the minute. What seemed difficult last year, will be easy work next year.

    Thirdly GGG will fake an injury or pull some disturbing tactic like that so he doesn't have to fight a threat to his pay day. Fighting an inactive Grandad will be like taking candy from a baby.

    Who actually thinks GGG will fight someone with a pulse if Canelo turns him down. I certainly don't. Even Murata is far too risky of a fight, and anything less should draw huge criticism for a guy who has often been accused of fighting weak opposition..
     
  14. shadow111

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    If Golovkin ducks a Canelo rematch he'll be forever known as a coward and we'll never let him and his fans hear the end of it. :deal:
     
  15. Puroresu_Fan

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    The excuses being made for GGG are ridiculous.

    All ya'll trying to take some moral high ground need to understand GGG doesn't care about no failed drug test. He wants to get paid more and that's it.