Lorenzo's $250 boxer doesn't exist - he lied

It sounds like you're trying to say

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Uh, that is what he was saying.

 

Did he clarify that for you?

FUEL TV doesn't pay anything to The UFC roster.. The UFC pays their own roster to fight on air and off. $6,000 minimum is not exclusive to PPV cards.

I don't think you know what you're saying to be honest, only trying to make sense of what he said.

 

You don't know what % fighters get from revenue, don't know what the company owes after each and every card, and cannot give an honest answer as to how much the owners take home after paying everyone involved.

A lot of you don't seem to mind that these are two different sports, at two different points on the time scale.

 

EXACTLY. ESPN doesn't pay the fighters, the individual promoter does. Thank you for succinctly proving my point.

 

If you would like me to put it a different way I will. Fuel doesn't directly pay UFC fighter salary's, however they have a deal in place (I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the Fox/FX/Fuel deal wasn't free) whereby they pay Zuffa a set amount of money to put a set amount of Cards on there station. You with me so far? By the same right ESPN pay Boxing promoters, be it Bob Arum, Golden Boy, DiBella or whoever else a set amount of money to put boxing show on there station. Now, its isn't up to ESPN, as a television provider to make sure all the boxers on the card they show, whether televised or not, get paid what people think they should be paid. Now the UFC AS A PROMOTION does have this responsibility. Therefore commenting on what ESPN "pays" its fighters is utterly redundant as ESPN doesn't actually pay any fighter directly, as you so eloquently put it in your previous post regarding Fuel TV.


And that's why Lorenzo's comment was utterly irrelevant and ******ed.

 

They have no such responsibility.

I think this is where everyone is getting confused.

The UFC pays their fighters. They don't have to give two shits about what people think they should be paid or what people think about the % of their revenue goes into fighter pay or what their minimum show/win purse is.

I think the biggest point Lorenzo made out of that whole interview is that the UFC is a for profit organisation. They are designed from the ground up to make money. If you're a debuting or an undercard fighter, then you're not bringing a whole lot of money into the business, so why should they invest a whole lot in you? If you perform well, you move up the chain, you bring them more business, they give you more money. This is essentially how every profitable business on the planet is run.

Should fighters be paid more? Maybe, but I also think teachers, nurses, police and firefighters deserve to be paid a whole lot more as well.

 

You're making something outta nothing here.. Burn Fertita at the stake for thinking ESPN signs the check to each fighter instead of the promotion they provide with $100,000?

That's the problem with arguments like these.. You don't know the details of The UFC and Fox deal, and base this response on that very assumption.

Monaro does the same as nobody outside of The UFC knows how much the owners truly profit after promotion and expenses for every fight card.. Not to mention the monthly salaries paid to the companies staff. Him and the editors he quotes don't have access to the books and records.. And provide us with their best guess.. Which is speculation at the end of the day.

 

So just explain for me, because I don't even know what point you're trying to make. In what way does the deal in place whereby FOX pays the UFC to put Live Cards on there channels differ to ESPN paying Boxing Promoters to put a card on there channel?


This thread is about Lorenzo trying to have a pop at ESPN in regards to what they pay fighters, when in fact ESPN doesn't directly pay any fighters. It was a comment directly aimed at trying to discredit the piece ESPN was doing on fighter pay in The UFC. Lorenzo wouldn't have said anything in regards to the Boxing Promoters who do pay the fighters as they weren't the ones trying to do an investigative piece on his company.

I'm not here arguing about whether fighters should or shouldn't be paid more, I'm merely commenting that in this instance Lorenzo has made himself look a grade A tit who for some reason doesn't understand how TV deals in MMA and Boxing actually work. And seeing as he is the head of Zuffa I'd be inclined to believe he does, meaning the comment was nothing more than a crude attempt to deflect attention from what ESPN was attempting to do.

 

Surely not every fight card, and not all fight cards are created equal.

UFC 100 $1,430,000

UFC 142 $943,000

Don't try to tell me how much the organization should be paying it's fighters when you don't have access to the records and books. You don't know the monthly expenses outside of promoting a fight, including fighter health insurance and salaries for UFC staff, and seem to ignore all expenses but fighter pay.. You only focus on fighter pay while knowing dick about all else.

 

Because ESPN is giving these promotions $100,000 to distribute to it's fighters.. The details on The UFC and Fox agreement won't be released, so who knows what was in that contract.

They write the $100,000 check to the promotion.. ESPN gives each promotion $100,000 to distribute.

It doesn't make a difference if ESPN doesn't sign each check to every fighter.. They are the ones providing for the fighters at the end of the day.. So you tell me who is coming outta pocket for these boxers at the end of a Friday Night Fights card?

 

I expect no less from any promoter, not to mention one that just made such a huge deal with Fox.. I could say the same for ESPN, because the interview was an obvious attempt to slow The UFC train, and the ESPN network has no room to talk fighter pay when they have to provide the $$$ for the promotions and fighters in which they air.

 

Isn't the $100,000 just your assumption as well though?