Losing ONE POUND can never in a million years weaken an adult male.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Jun 26, 2010.


  1. horst

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    I think Roach did not believe Oscar could make a lower weight than 147, and they wanted the fight very badly for the cash and the prestige, so they took the risk of Oscar rehydrating back to a high weight. It's all about risk vs reward. Pac eating 5 big meals a day and drinking protein shakes round the clock in order to fight at welterweight itself is a huge risk, but it's worth it for the rewards he is reaping now.
     
  2. horst

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    I have cut weight for fights numerous times. That is my evidence. For a former lww who came in under the limit for his last fight to then come in ONE POUND less for his next fight is NOTHING. You can keep on embarrassing yourself on this thread if you wish, I'm A-OK with that amigo :good
     
  3. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You need to learn more about cuttin weight... People make it seem it's just one pound, but remember when you have no where to lose one more pound it takes a lot of energy and time... Of course every fighter is going to say they feel good esp. Cotto. It's not only one or two pounds, they are cutting at times over 25-30 pounds in a few weeks... Go cut weight and learn a little more. If it wasn't a big deal the Cotto fight would've happend at 147...
     
  4. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And looked like **** in both fights then looks like a beast at 154. Weight has nothing to do with it. :-(


    If you're already struggling to make weight, yes. If you want to be naive about it, go ahead.


    Again, he looked like ass in the Clottey and Pacquiao and that should suggest that the weight has affected him.

    So why not let Pacquiao go up to 147? Is one pund going to make a difference for him?

    What's he supposed to say? "Guys I got my ass handed to me because the weight." He's not one to make excuses like other fighters do.

    Of course, he wanted Cotto to be drained so Pacquiao can have as much advantage as he needed. Why couldn't he just get Pac to fight at the regulr 147 limit to fight for the title. Making a catchweight for a title that he didn't have is ridiculous. If he wanted that title he should have let Cotto weigh in at 147 not 145.

    Right, look at what they did to Oscar.
     
  5. horst

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    Cotto came in at 146 vs Clottey, lower than he had to.

    Cotto came in ONE POUND lower vs Pacquiao.

    Sorry, whatever way you look at that, ONE POUND is nothing. Miguel Cotto said he felt great at the weight, and all that did was confirm what anyone with a brain already took as red.
     
  6. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's not evidence at all; that's you claiming something with no proof whatsoever. You've just proved you're an utter ****ing moron with that statement alone.

    I'm not embarrassing myself at all. Why would posting things on a forum be embarrassing? are you that insecure? I guess you are with how much false-bravado you have to post.

    You must be genuinely ****ing ******ed if you can't grasp that a guy fighting at 154 now found it harder to make 145 rather than 147. i'm not even disputing it in relation to his, or anyone elses, performance - it plain, simple and common sense to understand why weighing in at a lower target would be harder than normal.

    Frankly I can't see why you can't grasp that.
     
  7. horst

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    I'm not even going any further in your post.

    If you don't understand how it's easier to look good against Yuri Foreman with Manny Steward in your camp than it is to look good against Manny Pacquiao with Joe Santiago in your camp, I feel extremely sorry for you because you are going to get brutalized daily on this forum. :-(
     
  8. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    like i said im not looking at the cotto fight im just looking at it properly one pound is alot when youve nothing left to lose

    forget about the cotto pac thing just look at it properly with no agenda
     
  9. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah good point, all people tell 100% truth all of the time. People never exaggerate or even lie for effect or to save face. Ever. A persons word is complete and definitive fact.
     
  10. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, you point to that fight. Watch it again, he looks like **** in that fight, doesn't look anywhere near his best.
     
  11. horst

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    The guy was 146 for Clottey, then he came in at 145 next fight. If you think ONE POUND makes a difference you are braindead.
     
  12. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone needs to cut weight themselves... They make it seem it's just one pound what about the other 20-30 pounds they walk around with... They need to learn more.
     
  13. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    also u stted he didnt want him to balloon to high but like u said he only went down one lb so i mean that wouldnt affect much when he rehydrated so i mean that doesnt fit to me....or does 1lb have a big difference on how his rehydration goes?

    honestly i think Roach knows that 145 as opposed to 147 actually does make a difference with Cotto because Cotto is a naturaly big man...i mean he's fighting at 154 now and looks comfortable there...so i can imagine making 145 was a little struggle no?

    i think it was a litttle more strategy then u give credit for...not to take nuttin away from Pac..Cotto signed so he accepted....jus sayin i think that move was more strategical then some think.
     
  14. horst

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    I am. I keep on doing, and you keep on asking me to do it again, and I keep on doing it again.

    If a guy can come in at 146 with a 147 limit, then coming in at 145 is no different.

    As I keep saying, sorry whatever way you look at it that is the only sane conclusion.
     
  15. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're a moron. He's at a higher weight where he doesn't need to kill himself to get down to, thus having more energy and looking more...welll...alive.