Losses mean NOTHING

Yet he is still one of the biggest stars of the division, highly ranked by every organization and people are excited for his next fight.

 

Tszyu probably 'rebuilds' safely now to protect his record though.
The reason the losses mean more is because these fighters don't just fight the best once they're ready, they still want tune-ups and safe fights all the time. So that means it puts more pressure on them winning the 'big' fight.
In other words, it's their own fault.

 

Bodybuilder has an IQ ring lower than Usyk's. Facts. Usyk is smarter. Joshua is only training training and training.

Boxing is intelligence above all. The capacity to frustrate and then destroy your opponent. See Nicolino Locche. He won many of his fights throwing around 20/30 punches in 15 rounds. Joshua would lose 8 bouts on 10 with Usyk that means hes simply a great athlete but not a great boxer

He can fight but he cant box.

 

And?

 

...and thats it.

 

What was the point of your little declaim?

 

The point is the losses of Ali or Lewis mean few or nothing, Joshuas ones instead are remarkable. The same as to Fury's victories.

 

That´s you perspective.
Yet here we are, the Joshua hype is back. People are excited for his next fight, even if you might not be.
He is still one of the top heavyweights and would be the favorite over most of the division.

 

How they lose is important as well. Getting comprehensively outclassed, dominated and KO'd is much tougher to come back from than the way Tszyu lost. TT can bounce back from this with ease. He has not lost any of his fans, and if anything, he gained fans. All he needs to do is put up another good showing against Fundora in the rematch. If he wins, the loss is all but forgotten.

 

It's one thing to say his fights are exciting, it's another to say hes the best HW around for have dropped a MMA fighter with a ridiculous defence and the IQ ring of an amateur.

i dont wanna be repetitive but Joshua IQ ring is lower than Usyk's who is the true best HW around and this in boxing makes the difference between a good fghter and a true champion.

Heres why Im sure he would lose with many fighters of the 90s smarter than him such as Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Mercer and prime Mike of course.

 

"one of the top heavyweights" is what I said. Not the best.
And this thread has nothing to do with being the best. It´s about boxers still being able to rise to the top after losses.
The whole surface level view of "he lost, he is done" is shallow and toxic to the sport.

Joshua can still rise to the top. Just like many others could. And this is also true to many others in the sport.
Just look at Fundora and the 154lb division. What Fundora did was just recently also done by Tony Harrison and Julian Williams. Heck, some time ago Ishe Smith managed to win the IBF belt.

Boxers shouldn´t be written off just because they loose a fight or two. They can still compete and rise to the top. And so what if someone is truly better than them? It happens. Just move on and keep competing, keep giving us good fights.

 

Just for reference: any PBC fighter taking their 1st loss is suddenly a confirmed hype job by a section of fans. Spence losing to Crawford dropped him out of the p4p top 10. Haye was a hype job when he lost to Wlad despite being decent at heavyweight outside of that fight before his body fell apart. Golovkin was not feared at all after losing to Canelo. Im sure there are tons more examples too. We don't even give guys a chance to avenge losses before we trash them. Or see how they bounce back after the loss.

 

Exactly, like I said no one has a significant harm to their career by losing.

Great examples given there.

Haye lost to Thompson and basically continued his career as if it never happened.

Golovkin went on to reunify MW and get a rubber match with Canelo.

Spence is a dynamic situation, he's just lost now so let's see what he does next.

This idea that fighters need to be unbeaten to seel has long since faded.

 

Losses are not important if you are old (Ali) or if you after a loss you rise stronger than before otherwise they mean you reached your limits and with some opponent youre always destined to lose. This is the case of Joshua. If he faces a master of technique who moves better than him in the ring (Usyk) or a puncher with a good chin and fast and heavy hands that knows how to pressure him his destiny is only one: lose and lose again.

 

And?

Your obsession over Joshua is quite something.