Lou Duva

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Duva saw the damage his guy was taking dude but also that he was boxing better. He also knew Chavez was a warrior who was going to go for broke. And years later he denied telling him that he needed to take the final round. Regardless of what he knew about the cards or didn’t know, It was a bad judgment call. Period…. And yes I watched Tyson lose to Douglas live just a month earlier before Taylor-Chavez. I had Douglas ahead and am aware that one judge had Tyson winning but I don’t see how that fight compares to Taylor Chavez
     
  2. Saintpat

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    If anything, Douglas was more dominant against Tyson other than the flash knockdown. Yet the scorecards had it all tied up.

    What does that have to do with Chavez-Taylor? You think that if you were in Meldrick’s corner you’d have been comfortable that the judges weren’t going to screw your guy? That you could give away the last round?

    Meldrick wasn’t winning that fight by running from Chavez. He was winning by landing combos and working angles in and out of pocket range. Duva didn’t say ‘This is the last round, I want you to stand right in front of him and trade one for one. Take his best shots. Dare him to knock you out’ lol.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Let’s talk about what he DID know.

    1. His man was badly busted up and being a professional trainer and corner man for decades knew the signs of a fully fatigued and hurt fighter.

    2. He knew what type of fighter chavez was and that he’d be going for broke.

    3. He knew later that he f-cked up enough to change his story about what he told his fighter in the corner years earlier.

    This isn’t about what Duva knew or didn’t know anyway. It’s about the fact that he made a bad judgment call which might have lost his man the fight. That’s what I’ve been saying. Why is that so hard to agree with ?
     
  4. Saintpat

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    What Taylor did resulted in a loss so ‘obviously’ he should have done something different, right? It’s like when a football coach calls a play on fourth down late in the game and it fails … well ‘obviously’ a different play would have scored a touchdown, lol.

    If Taylor ran he might also have been KO’d. Or for all Duva knew he’d give away the last round and lose a narrow decision.

    We call this Monday Morning Quarterbacking.

    As for ‘changing his story,’ I gather (without seeing) that he sat down for an interview and didn’t remember what he said between two rounds of the thousands he cornered in his career. Guess what, I worked corners for several years (not nearly as many as Duva) and I couldn’t tell you what I said in almost any of them. If I did, the fighter might say ‘well coach, actually you told me this.’

    Do you remember with perfect clarity and absolute 100% assurance that you remember it correctly everything you said many years ago? If so, we need to set up a scientific study.

    Duva misremembered what he told his fighter and from this you’ve decided he’s lying to cover up. SMFH.
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    He saw the replay of that fight many times and had the everlasting memory of having a fighter who ALMOST dented the record of Julio Cesar Chavez. Yes… he knew what he said. And since you’re so hell bent on using football coaching analogies then you should know that coaches take the fall for their calls all the time and even lose their jobs for it.. but you’re obviously the type of person who if told “ water is wet “ you’d argue until you were blue in the face that it wasn’t…. Have a nice evening…
     
  6. greynotsoold

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    There is something that I have never understood about how Bloodworth and Duva functioned in the corner during the Golota v Bowe fights...
    You have a fighter that is excitable and emotional. He should come back to a calm corner but they were screaming and overly excited themselves. If you can't control your own emotions in the corner...
     
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