Loud mouth hypejobs at middleweight

Prove you wrong how?.....Smith isn't and never has been world level....and would lose to several fighters on Golovkins resume that you believe to be sub par.

I believe Vanes coming off the lay off would have beaten Smith quite handily.

And for the record you have never dismantled anyone or anything on this forum and you support a PED cheat and a guy who shoves wooden spoons up his anus.....says a lot about you tbh.

 

I made a statement that Smith is greater than the vast majority of opponents GGG has faced, and you clearly disagreed. I'm using facts, you're using opinion.

I don't care what you believe, since what you believe has no merit since we are dealings with facts, not GGGoon fantasy. You can claim the versions of Vanes, Wade, Monroe, Murray that GGG fought all beat Smith which is highly debatable and is pure speculation clearly coming from a bias perspective and irrelevant since that is completely a different argument.

What is not speculation is that Liam Smith was a world champion with three successful championship fights under his belt, currently in his prime, making him more accomplished than the vast majority of GGG's opponents. Also, Liam Smith has only lost to two very good world champions. He may not be a top tier elite champion, and will likely lose to the elite every time, but he was a world champion fighter and that alone that is much more than what the vast Majority of GGG's opponents can tout. That alone makes him better than anyone on GGG's resume at the time that he fought them. Yes or no?? And don't bring up Kassim Ouma, Marco Antonio Rubio because by the time GGG fought them they were years and years removed from their primes.

Fact is up until now Vanes is nothing more than a contender who was coming off a two year lay off and was fighting in a new division for the first time having ONLY with a three weeks notice to prepare and you want to make a pointless claim that the version GGG fought would handily beat Smith.

 

Wow! Those are great names lol

 

You cite the over rated fringe Contender Lemieux, who got his arse kicked by Rubio. Andy Lee, and Sullivan, neither of whom are better than Trout, Williams, or Bundrage where.

 

Andrade will be Saunder's best opponent to date.

 

Vanes has fought and competed with much better opposition than Smith did in his "title run".

Anybody can win a title if the opponent is soft and anyone can defend a title if the opponents are soft which is what Smith did.......he's NOT world level.

 

Based on what?

Squeaking past Culcay?

 

So you rank Vanes who was fighting in a new division after being inactive for two years higher than Smith?

 

Yes and I dare say if they fought tomorrow that he'd beat Smith with relative ease.

Smith has one stand out performance in beating Liam Williams who isBritish level. His title win and subsequent defence was an utter joke.

 

no no. you cannot rank someone inactive not even in the right division. Vanes was a non ranked opponent as a late standin.

since you claim anyone can a world title, why havent you dont it then?
go on, win one.

 

Ohhh sarcasm by ESB's resident Calzaghe stalker. Well you wouldn't as you have a genetic glass mandible.

Maybe you rate beating a Montenegrin and Jimmy Kelly as world level defences but I don't.....hence Smith was never and isn't World level.

 

why is it sarcasm when you claimed anyone can win a world title, so I asked why you dont go win one. Go on, explain why you havent won one.

Its only sarcasm IF you were being sarcastic with your original point - nice one ruining your own point then.

 

Anyone can win a world title when promoted correctly against inferior opponents like Smith was.

Do you think beating Thompson, Kelly and Radosevic equates to world level opposition?

 

youve not answered why you havent won a world title IF IN YOUR OPINION ANYONE CAN.

go and win one, pal then come back with your proof.


yeh u are like that kid who claims anyone can kick a football round all day to get paid millions. but when asked to do it, its run awayaaay

 

Do you consider Thompson, Kelly and Radosevic world level?