Louis - Bivins ... any film or coverage ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    This is a bout I'd like to learn more about ... any film exist ? How about some good fight coverage about the fighters going in and the actual fight ?
     
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    "One thing Louis still had was his punch. He could still hit very hard. His skills and reflexes were no longer there, but his punch was." - Jimmy Bivins Ring Magazine post fight 1951
     
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    BALTIMORE, Aug. 16. - (AP) -
    "I'll never fight light again,"
    vows Joe Louis.
    _ Whether it be Rocky Marciano
    or Ezzard Charles next on his
    comeback parade, the Brown
    Bomber will come in as close as
    he can get to 208 pounds.
    _ He blamed last night's
    weight of 203, lowest for him
    in 10 years, for a disappoint-
    ing although unanimous 10-
    round victory over Jimmy
    Bivins of Cleveland.
    _ "I didn't improve none to-
    night," he said disgustedly.
    _ He was downhearted mostly at
    his failure to deck Bivins in the
    last round when he hit the 180-
    pounder with everything he had.
    Bivins was still hanging on to
    him at the end. The last minute
    flurry was the most savage of
    the fight which otherwise fol-
    lowed a dull pattern. Louis
    jabbed and jabbed and Bivins ran
    and ran.

    CROWD PLEADS
    _ The crowd of 18,215 which paid
    $75,217 pleaded time and again;
    "Joe, open him up." But Louis
    was able to land only half a dozen
    telling blows with that once-
    feared right and never could he
    follow through.
    _ "I was just too light to get that
    right hand over," explained Louis
    later. "No question about it, I
    was five pounds too light."
    _ Bivins puffed up Louis' left
    eye early in the fight but his
    spasmodic hit and run tactics
    took little advantage of it. The
    only other mark on either
    fighter was a slight cut over
    the left eye of Bivins.

    NO KNOCKDOWNS
    _ There were no knockdowns.
    Referee Eddie Leonard took
    from Louis his biggest round,
    the 10th, because of a low blow.
    Then Leonard scored seven
    rounds for Bomber Joe and three
    for Bevins. Judges Lee Half-
    penny and Bill Ellis voted in
    unison: six rounds for Louis,
    three for Bivins and one even.
    _ Louis' weight was the lowest
    he had registered since Sept. 29,
    1941, when he knocked out Lou
    Nova. When Louis lost to Charles
    in their title fight last September,
    he scaled 218.



    As you see kind of a dull fight, Louis basically jabbed his way to a 10 round decision over Bivins, and had one big round in the 10th which he teed off on bivins(he actually lost the round due to low blows). Louis always claimed he came in too light at 203lb, and felt much more comfortable fighting at the 210-213lb mark. He felt weak and powerless at 203lb. Interestingly enough, Bivins claimed it was Joe Louis' power which he still felt was there.
     
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    Louis at 203lb
     
  5. klompton

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    Bivins was much smaller and did little actual fighting, only picking his spots and trying the occasional counter. It was his saftey first tactics, designed to hear the final bell, that ruined the fight more than Louis' age or condition.
     
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    Do you think Bivins was intimidated a bit by Louis' far superior size combined with his powerful jab? Bivins seems like the type not to care about a fighters size, but he was in the ring with a 6'2 200lb + man who had much better skills than most fighters of that size during the time period. Perhaps he felt out Louis in the first round and realized he was in over his head and played it cautious from there out to the final bell?
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Thank you guys.
     
  8. klompton

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    No doubt in my mind he was either intimidated by louis' size or power or both.
     
  9. Joe E

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    Here's some footage of Bivins


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVJPgXWk7RM[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBHz6vDwuA[/ame]
     
  10. SonnyListonsJab

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    Bivins is past his prime in that footage
     
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    Louis is still pretty ripped at 37