Louis Says Marciano Hit The Hardest

I am confused. Are you stating that X weighs 182,
If A can catchB, Y who destroyed C will definitely catch X?
You are certain even though A nor C fought Y, C or X?

To the untrained mind It almost seems like there is no basis for comparison.

 

You won't take it point by point because you cannot refute mine!
Please show when Flynn was a ranked contender?
He is extremely difficult to categorise,having some good wins but losing over a 3rd of his fights for a record of 44-33-2 being ko'd 13 times.
The problem with all your somewhat puerile analysis is you give credit to a fighter for wins he achieved years previously and make no allowances for the deterioration and losses he accumulates as his career progresses and ultimately declines.For example Schkor beat Flynn in 1946,he beat Mauriello in1947.Schkor fought Marciano in1950 4 years after he beat Flynn and 3.5 years after he beat Mauriello. The only decent win within a couple of years of him facing Marciano was over Sid Peaks ,hardly a top ranked contender!
You also fail to address and totally ignore the fact that Schkor was on the way out,and retired after the Marciano fight as well as the cold fact that Schkor himself was only briefly ranked in1947 ,3 years before he fought Marciano.

I hate to break this to you but a fleeting one time ranking earned years earlier for one month doesn't stay with you in perpetuity! When Schkor fought Marciano he was not a ranked contender and had not been one for 3 years! Because you have no answer to my previous post you have resorted to the time honoured tactic of the personal insult and dredged the internet for some meaningless quotes which everyone anyway is totally familiar with.

In none of them can we find the confirmation for the title of this thread which was my sole reason for engaging with the fan boy tag team of you and LachBuster .
The quotes you provided in your pathetic response actually endorse Rocky as a grinder!

Bottom line there is NO QUOTE anywhere by Joe Louis in which he says Marciano hit the hardest.
I do not pretend to be an expert on boxing ,but,having studied it,practised it, written about it, read about it ,and watched countless films ,many of which I have been collecting for 50 years,I venture to suggest that I know significantly more than you, a "Rockista fan boy ",who has had his nose bent out of shape because some posters do not swallow the fan boy bull**** that he attempts to push down their throats.

 

Excellent post with detailed analysis!

 

You don't even see the blatant contradiction here do you?

 

Conn weighed 168lbs for the first Louis fight Mike Jacobs did a cover job its documented in Kimball's book.
"Louis didn't hit all that hard"?
He smashed Uzcudun's gold teeth all over the canvas becoming the only man to ko him.
He forced Braddock's teeth through his mouthpiece and into his lips!
He lifted Galento off the floor with a punch!
He made giant Buddy Baer do a perfect pirouette from a single right hand.

 

I wouldn't necessarily put them in the same category of power. Same category of knockout artist, yes, but that's not quite the same thing.

Rock to me looked like he carried far more blunt force trauma in his fists. He was stockier and had denser bone structure than Louis, and the way he generated power was almost guaranteed to build up the maximum momentum his frame could generate. Louis was a more refined boxer whose speed and general sharpness allowed him to whip shots in from multiple angles to multiple scoring (i.e. vulnerable) areas.

Rock could bludgeon you anywhere on your body, break you down and crumple you into a heap. Louis could machine gun you with crisp, perfectly leveraged shots that'd short circuit your brain and leave you a dribbling mess on the canvas. Very different methods for achieving the same aim.

 

Read this slowly Conn weighed 168lbs the weight was adjusted to make it look more like an even match.
1. Marciano never drove anyone's teeth through their mouthpiece and into their lips.
2.Marciano never lifted a 230lbs ranked fighter off his feet.
3.Marciano never ko'd a class 200lbs+ fighter who was prime.

N B Box rec is a very useful reference but it isn't infallible ,eg it has Louis listed as 6'2",he wasn't he was 6'1.5"

 

Yeah you do that ,provide proof to the contrary and ,while you are at it provide the proof for the title of your thread which you have consistantly failed to do!

 

You gave me box rec here it is on the same page, lower down.

Louis' weight was announced as 199½ and Conn's as 174. However, it has been reported that Louis actually weighed 204 and Conn was 169. Actually Conn was 168.

 

Connolly was nothing.Wilson was stopped on a cut eye early in the 1st round.Louis was only a remnant .

The bout was stopped because of a deep cut over Wilson's left eye. Marciano concentrated on using his left hook in the brief fight. The crowd of 3,351 booed the quick ending because Wilson was a willing and strong opponent, but the fight had to be stopped because of the severity of Bill's injury. The gross gate was $7,102

Marciano broke Layne's bridge.
He didn't push Bilazarian's teeth through his mouth piece into his lips he broke one of his teeth.

Marciano, who was paid $40 for the fight, knocked Belzarian out in the first round. Years later, Belzarian recalled, "The first time he knocked me down, he broke my tooth. Then he knocked me down again. Then I don’t remember anything Scratching aren't you.lol