Louis v. Ali opposition.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Langford, Nov 14, 2007.


  1. Nick Balsamo

    Nick Balsamo Member Full Member

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    What ? :blood
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't know how anyone can use the lyle and Peralta performances, but ignore the fact that Louis was floored by Tony " fat ass " Galento. I mean Jesus christ talk about being partial towards one fighter over another :patsch
     
  3. janitor

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    What exactly is wrong with Tony "fat ass" Galento?
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Several months ago, I posted an entire thread on Tony's exercise regimens, and lifestyle choices. At one point, I even posted some of his footage off of youtube. At this time, I gave a detailed list of reasons as to why I didn't particularly think highly of him, and I know for a fact that you participated in some of these threads. That being said, I don't really care to go into the topic in depth:

    ........Again..........
     
  5. janitor

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    There are much worse people to get droped on your but by than Galento.

    His power at least is taken for granted.

    Now dont make me let him loose on the boy in your avatar.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Louis was also decked by Kenny Bugger. :good
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Well yeah, it had to be said i think.
     
  8. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Agreed, but you have to accept normally Tony´s power, he proved it against some very good fighters, his record speaks for itself...
     
  9. janitor

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    You have to factor in the circumstances under which they were decked.

    Louis was caught by a left hook while steping inside in an otherwise one sided fight.

    Foreman went life and death with Lyle.

    So yes I do think the Lyle fight is more damaging to Foreman than the Galento fight is to Louis.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    Norton was Ko'd by Shavers in 1 and Garcia Ko'd him and had him on the floor before that, Norton was Ko'd by every puncher he faced, I thought Foreman looked great in that fight, like a wide swinging wrecking ball but remember Norton was dropped 2 or 3 times by Scott Ledoux, Garcia, so Norton was KOable, Foreman again was a wideswinging wrecker vs Frazier but Joe ws really on the verge of being burnt and he still got up 6 times in 2 rounds, point is you kids want to make fighters Gods and they were all able to be beaten. Foreman fought only a few real threats on the way to Frazier, look at his record and tell me who he fought, so when I bring up Peralta, that was one of the name fighters he fought besides a burnt Chuvalo
     
  11. Woddy

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    Lyle was in a much higher class than Galento was. Lyle was a true contender who earned his shots, and would have given a lot of fighters of Loui's era problems. Galento was a dirty fighter who beat some of his opponents by using crude tactics such as thumbing people in the eye ( Lou Nova fight ). He also was likely a product of corrupt promoting given that the mafia controlled the rating system in those days, and Tony was an Italian American from New Jersey ( Soprano land ).

    The fact that Louis even gave Galento a title shot to begin with, is worse for his legacy than Foreman getting decked by Lyle.
     
  12. Luigi1985

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    You´re right, Galento was just very good because he had Italian origin, and everyone with that was controlled by the mafia... :tired
     
  13. Woddy

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    Of Tony's 110 professional fights, exactly 63 of them were in New Jersey, and a great number of the rest of them were still on the east coast in New York, Connecticut, Maryland, and Pennsylvania. These areas, particularly New Jersey and New York, were very heavily populated with Italian Americans during the first half of the 20th century and was a main operating platform for the mafia.

    If you don't think that this had something to do with Galento's success, especially looking at what a totally deconditioned fighter he was, then I would respectfully like to hear your explanation.
     
  14. Luigi1985

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    He had some skills. He had very good power, especially in his left hook (who he threw also pretty fast and unpredictable), an iron chin, heart, and also an awful dirty style to fight against, that´s a good combination for a HW- fighter...
     
  15. Woddy

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    I counted 56 men on his record who were under 200 Lbs, and that was just based on the one's who's weights were listed. He was 5'9", and weighed far too much for a man his height. He tended a bar, drank like a fish, smoked, ate like a pig, and low and behold, most of his fights were in his own backyard, the same backyard shared by many mobsters, and Walla!!!!

    He gets a title shot.

    Sounds pretty damn fishy to me.