Louis V Schmeling 1 ,a question?

Joe said it best:

“Why wouod I be scared of Schmeling when he s 2 years older and I’m 2 years better?”

 

Because he beat the living hell out of him from the fourth to the 12 round and knocked him out cold. At the time few thought he was two years better. He was viewed as overrated and very vulnerable. Hard to believe but true.

 

You hit the nail on the head. Sonja Henie drained him. Skated on him till he collapsed. Proof that women are poison.

 

Had a rematch happened earlier the results could have been different..I do believe. Waiting 2 years is a bit usuasual. If rematch was 4 months later I'm not so confident Louis would appear as he did in 1938.

 

I agree with you but if I read it correctly the question was ever ...

 

I’m not so sure. Joe got humiliated and was pissed. He got back into form pretty quickly, massacring both Sharkey and Ettore within 12 weeks. IMO Braddock should have been made to defend against Schmeling and probably would have lost, but even if he was defending the title I think Schmeling had a short window for having anything for Joe Louis

 

Journeyman92 said:

... sometimes the old past there best fights are the best to learn from, it’s the height of there boxing knowledge they know the most, more then they’ve ever had access to and they’re choosing certain moves over others and you can learn even if it’s just because they aren’t what they used to be.

Right on! That's why I like watching the old kinescopes from the '50s. There are so many great fighters to watch doing their stuff.

 

Some stylistic issues are more all encompassing than others.

Multiple disadvantages in play and therefore that much less likely to be able to correct all of them later down the track.

I don’t want to oversimplify or short fall Max’s performance, a great performance but it was heavily based on one particular flaw in Louis’ game - therefore, upon correcting that flaw, the game was changed quite significantly.

Also, Max’s courage was integral component to his success. It was no walk in the park and Max had to endure a fair measure of punishment to see his strategy through.

Sort of similar to Ali’s strategy vs Foreman - a successful strategy but not without it costs. Some others might’ve had a chance against that version of Louis but they’d still require Max’s special brand of courage and mettle to pull it off.

In the rematch, Louis had corrected the primary flaw but he also knew to jump on Max as early as possible to prevent any possibility of him from settling in, gaining any momentum and finding a home for the counter right hand.

A more recent semi analogy to Louis-Schmeling I might be Tszyu vs Vince Phillips.

As I recall, KT was dishing as usual but Phillips was one tough mo fo and he also found a home for his right hand - which he landed over and over until KT could take no more.