Louis vs Charles (prime for prime)

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We all know has this played out in real life, but could Charles have beaten a prime Louis?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Potentialy yes.

    Charles would simply be a nightmare for anybody on his best night. If Louis didnt take him seriously he could be in trouble.
     
  3. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    Joe said in his autobiography that there were so many openings available when he fought Charles, but he simply wasn't fast enough to catch him.

    Prime versus prime, I'd give it to Louis.
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No way ... even though he lost a fairly lopsided decision to Charles Louis fought very competitive in many of the rounds ... take a look at Charles face after the fight ... a prime Louis would have stopped Charles in the middle rounds ...
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's oversimplefying it a bit I think. Conn, Farr and Pastor did better than that, and they were all inferior to Charles.
     
  6. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Charles would have given Louis a match but you must remember that Charles had a tendency to brawl especialy when in trouble. Getting into a punchout with a prime Louis would be a big mistake. Louis late KO.
     
  7. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Charles was a lot smaller but more effective especially because this would be Charles before the Baroudi tragedy. He could cause Louis problems style wise and with his speed and boxing ability but I feel Joe would stop him eventually in a great fight.
     
  8. stonemittens

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    Prime vs Prime you have two all time p4p greats. I would have two give it to Charles even though he was the smaller man. Remember he is the only fighter to last 15 rounds with Rocky.
     
  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I give Charles a slight edge.
     
  10. ghettowizard

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    Hed cause Louis some problems but Id take Joe when its all said and done
     
  11. Verbalkint

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    Louis would stop Charles late
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That fight would prove that Charles was underated but Louis would prevail by a Stoppage...Still Charles had the slickness and tools and he would not coast like he did vs the old Joe it would be more heated battle with a lot of exchanges...but Joe was master at combination power punching and Charles would get caught in an exchange in a competitive bout Louis TKO 12
     
  13. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis by late stoppage. Though Charles was slick and would give Louis some trouble early, Joe would find the openings and capatilize with his skilled combinations and stop him late.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    In the real match, a prime Charles busted up an old Joe Louis. However Louis in his prime has a lot of zip on his punches. In a prime vs prime match, I think Louis would land one of his Sunday's best and end it.

    I agree with you. Charles was a stand and trade type of fighter who used hand speed and countering ability to win. I respect Charles. He was a pound for pound tough son of gun. Charles fought the same stand and trade style vs Marciano.
     
  15. janitor

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    Would Charles necisarily stand and trade with a prime Louis?

    He knew he could get away with it against the older version but against a prime version he might think better of it.

    Another interesting "what if" is a scenario where Louis takes Charles on imidiately after the Walcott fight. Could he have had enough left at this point to slip past Charles and then string his title reign out further by defending against guys like Savold.