Love him or hate him, Wilder is holding this thing together

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dubblechin, Feb 25, 2020.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, Wilder's early title career was disgraceful.

    A symptom rather than the cause though. Fighters are allowed to have heavyweight "titles" before they're ready for really good competition. They are allowed by the industry to be champions and learn on the job at the same time. It's awful.

    I do wonder though - could it be a reason for his pitiful reception as a fighter? Could it be the reason why he made such a little splash as a champion? American, looks the part, massive puncher - should have been the next Mike Tyson. Could the pitiful level of opposition he met when he "broke" have cost him hundreds of millions? I like to think so, but I guess we'll never know.

    The premise of the title is obviously absurd, and what is happening on an anonymous British forum is of absolutely no matter at all. But Wilder still has plenty to offer - he did, eventually, step up and losing is no shame (i agree the excuses are absurd). I'd love to see him fight Whyte or Parker or any of these guys really.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Mate nobody cares about Wilder.. he just happens to have the WBC belt that he has held hostage from Whyte... thats all it is...

    Now Wilder is irrelevant if he doesnt have the belt I dont care... Whyte doesnt care... AJ doesnt care...

    Whyte just wants the WBC belt but he didnt get given his chance.. he offered 12 million dollars to fight for it... thats more money than Fury offered.

    Whyte had to beat a lot of people to get to the WBC belt and Wilder still said "no"....

    WBC belt is all we care about... Wilder is completely irrelevant... nobody cares about him.. I really mean it... I am being blunt.

    Whyte fills arena after arena... he has so much love from people all over social media.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh please. Wilder succesfully defended against bad contenders and good/great fighters. He knocked them all out except for Fury.

    He never went the distance in a defense with a Davarryl Wlliamson or a Rozvan Cojanu or a Trevor Berbick or a Lucien Rodriquez type. He never lost to some bloated sub like Andy Ruiz. You can't name any because if Wilder was like other alphabet titleholders, he'd have lost after a defense or three, too.

    Clearly, it's too soon for you to be objective.

    You're still in the LETS START A NEW THREAD BASHING WILDER BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HAS A FIGHT LINED UP AND JOSEPH PARKER IS FIGHTING SOMEONE ON SATURDAY I'VE NEVER HEARD OF AGAIN mode.

    So, go on. There are plenty of those threads to choose from.

    I understand. None of your favorite heavyweights are doing anything.

    So provide them ALL cover by bashing Wilder some more.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte Wilder Whyte Wilder Whyte Wilder Whyte Wilder ....

    It's comical, at this point.

    Whyte's whole identity is WILDER IS DUCKING ME.

    And you've lapped it up. And you've ignored Whyte's garbage performances and failed PED tests. And made excuses ... always trying to lift Whyte up by BASHING WILDER.

    And you have no idea how to talk impressively about Whyte without mentioning Wilder. Because you've used Wilder to pump up Whyte for years.

    You literally can't post about Whyte without BASHING Wilder.

    People can talk about Wilder for days on end and never even mention Whyte.

    For Whyte fans, it's all about Wilder.

    Whyte Wilder Whyte Wilder.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's awesome. You should stop caring about Wilder, too. And stop bringing him up every time you mention Whyte.

    Look at this as an intervention.

    We're all here to help you. No judgements. (LOL)
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I'm being objective.
    Come on then, educate me.
    Compare Wilder's first 6 challengers to, say, the challengers Witherspoon, T.Tubbs, P.Thomas, T.Berbick, M.Weaver, etc. took on ..... (and lost to)
    Those guys could have reigned long if they'd faced the bums Wilder face, couldn't they ?

    He didn't defend against any real contenders until he faced Ortiz, his 7th defence.
    He clocked up 6 defence reign against journeymen, fringe guys.
    Is this true or not ?
     
  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You have missed the point, I was bringing up Wilder because he had the WBC and was preventing Whyte from getting a shot at it.... Ortiz twice.... Fury three times.... Breazeale... and Whyte still didnt get a shot despite being No.1 on the roster.

    Wilder has now taken his rightful place underneath Whyte as a boxer... where he belongs.

    We just want the WBC belt for Whyte.
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Nervous breakdown

    Whyte is a clean fighter
     
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  9. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahahaha @Dubblechin how did you manage to login despite the tears flooding your laptop? Deontay “excuse” Wilder
     
  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously? You aren't looking at this objectively.

    For example, Weaver was a BUM for John Tate. An easy defense. A guy who had 9 losses in 30 fights, including losses to Howard Smith (twice), Duane Bobick, Rodney Bobick, Billy Ryan, Larry Frazier, Leroy Jones, Stan Ward and Larry Holmes. Then he knocks out Tate with 45 seconds left in a fight where he lost nearly every round, and now Weaver's suddenly better than anyone Wilder ever fought, apparently?

    Had Wilder lost to the 32-2 Johann Duhaupas in his second defense, for example, and Duhaupas made one defense knocking out Helenius, and then the 34-2 Duhaupas lost to a juiced Povetkin or a juiced Miller, and juiced Povetkin or juiced Miller became WBC champ ... and then Povetkin lost the belt to Joshua, and Joshua lost the belt to Ruiz, and Ruiz lost the belt back to Joshua ... how the hell would that be any different than what was going on in the 1980s?

    The answer is it wouldn't be different at all. They just passd it back and forth. That didn't make them all great. The idea is not to lose it when you're supposed to win.

    And, unlike those alphabet boys then and now, Wilder didn't lose to guys like that. He stopped them.

    You are just in WILDER BASH mode.

    So this isn't the day. But I'd be glad to discuss it at a later time, when you guys quit frothing at the mouth of his loss.
     
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  11. Aydamn

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    i think really and truly... Dubblechin is having an identity crisis... with Wilder now knocked off from WBC champ... he doesn't have a purpose in life... he feels like he himself has lost everything as well. His hero is no longer in the driving seat.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's always August. And a second shot at the WORLD heavyweight title.

    Maybe Anthony Joshua will get around to fighting Kubrat Pulev by then?

    Hey, maybe Hearn will put Logan Paul on as the co-feature (or the MAIN EVENT). Maybe Joshua could fight Logan Paul after Pulev?

    That's sort of the trajectory Matchroom is going now, right?

    I'll stick with Fury-Wilder III in August. Thanks.
     
  13. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just aswell. Imagine Wilder had the weight of carrying the WBC belt AND The Ring Magazine belt, that poor lamb’s legs would have been ruined.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You've fallen off the wagon in minutes. Your sickness is worse than I thought.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The WBC "interim" belt was so heavy, Whyte needed PEDs to lift it. Ba-dum-boom. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.