Low Guard = Massive Power

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  1. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it is more natural/intuitive to keep the hands low and there for a more relaxed poistion. As far as creating massive power or just more power than a high guard goes. I think that if it dose create bore power the amount is not mesurable as the diffrance in distance a punch travles is not that much.
    I think there reasons to use both a high and low guard at diffrent times. However I don't think the low guard creates more power.
     
  2. Johnstown

    Johnstown Boxing Addict banned

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    i agree...the only thing i would say is that you can often suprise a fighter with punches from the low guard..and hence hurt a man more....the old "punch you dont see coming" rule. hence while you may not have more power...the effect may be the same as having more power, ie...damage.
     
  3. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    A Low guard can definetly help a fighters combinations to flow together better. You see some criticism laid on some fighters becuase they keep their hands low but some of them would porbably be more limited with a high guard.
     
  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldnt say it necessarily equates to massive power, not at all. It may suit some guys who happen to carry the dope and they feel more comfortable throwing punches that particular way whilst others employ the more 'traditional' method. Each to their own i reckon
     
  5. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I feel that in some ways my hands, arms, and upperbody are more relaxed with a slightly lower guard, and i can throw more explosive punches as a result. Just my take though.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How about Jersey Joe Walcott's hands low, sneaky shots?

    He landed one of the most devastating knockout shots ever against Ezzard Charles with a punch thrown from a very low position.

    Walcott also had Marciano rattled more then once, and is one of only two men to ever knock him down.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. Seamus

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    Holmes had a great upjab. I used to copy that in my own way, got a lot of power on it but you have to be pretty quick defensively.

    When someone mentions low guard powerpunching, Bob Fitzsimmons comes to mind first.
     
  8. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    This



    I cant throw punches nearly as hard when my guard is high. But I'm always practicing every angle to become as flexible as possible.


    As for slipping, it IS easier with your hands low, because its a more natural movement for your body to make.
     
  9. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    I'm not even saying they have to be super low to get the "feeling" I'm talking about. Like even Joe Louis hand levels are fine. It's just a matter of being loose. In that peek-a-boo Tyson/Patterson style I feel like I'm wasting a lot of energy through tension. It's kind of a "zen" eastern martial arts type thing.
     
  10. Johnstown

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    I mentioned my past trainers..while they did indeed hate me going low guard..they also hated when i would do a arthur abe like super high guard. My trainer use to mention call it "hand cuffing" yourself...and it is true that is very hard to get off any kind of shots....aggressive or counter..from that stance..when you try to counter the man usually sees it....and often steps off and then hits you where you opened (if you throw a left they step to their right and throw either a stright right or side angled left to the that side. Anyhow...the truth is i think the best fighters can mix it up.....but hey...different strokes for different folks.
     
  11. Johnstown

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    yea....it can be a kind of tense style..but i do think its possible to be relaxed from it...thats the first style i learned (my brother taught me to fight like that....he was a tyson era guy) but i slowely moved away from it...however I still go back to it at times.
     
  12. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At times, I'll serve as Ray Arcel for strategy to his trainer's Freddie Brown. His father is the best trainer in the northeast. And that's a conservative statement.

    Remember this kid -he's going places. His fundamentals are exceptional and he can deal with any style already. He fought a banger last month and went down in the first round -that shot he took was a left hook flush. He got up, made adjustments, and easily took the next two rounds and the bout. Have you seen "Analyzing Burley" on you tube? You'll see some of the same principles in Turon's style.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Is this the man 'Hilario' who you wrote about, I mean his dad?

    I have seen that video and when I get to a good computer I will watch Turon.
     
  14. the brown bomber

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    I agree I doubt there is meaningful power difference if your left is up or down. One thing is the SKILLED fighters who keep a low guard uses the forward shoulder as a defense and then tends to twist their body away and come back with the right counterpunch. Extremely high level guys pull this off because they really understand head movement, slipping, ducking and rolling. They probably have the appearance of throwing harder punches because they are just so talented overall.
     
  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's him. I'll be at a gym in Stoughton tomorrow noon to watch his boy spar.