Lower weight classes get too much attention at the expense of HW and CW divisions

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  1. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's way too much talk about divas from lower weight classes like Canelo, GGG, Khan, Pacman, Mayweather etc. and people are way too invested in these fighters.

    Historically, HW division was always the most prestigious and rightfully so. It's the way that it should be because those guys are essentially the best boxers. We have plenty of great fights ahead and great prospects. Also, cruiserweight division is totally overlooked and underrated. It's absolutely stacked with top talent and top 10 guys will actually fight each other in the next months. Last year we saw a great fight between Huck and Glowacki which was the best fight of the year for me. No dramas with catchweights and draining each other, just fighting.

    It's laughable how those divas from lower weight classes like Mayweather, Pacman and now Canelo are somehow seen as the faces of boxing. I guess it has a lot to do with Klitschko and other Eastern Europeans being so dominant from 175 up and Americans had to find other divisions to hype. What I can't understand is how so many people fall for that.

    I can respect good fighters from lower weight classes but people have to accept the bitter reality that this P4P stuff is a play pretend, a make believe. Lower weight classes will always be a sideshow, a playground for smaller people so they can enjoy boxing, while HW division is, always has been and should be by far the most prestigious division of boxing.

    A heavyweight is a perfect specimen of a man, of a fighter. Those guys are the best boxers, period. Like Tyson Fury said, the bigger they are the harder they punch, the better men they are.

    Cruiserweights also deserve a lot of respect because this is basically a perfect weight for a fighter, they have great power but aren't as slow as the HWs. And they can move up and upset the HWs.

    The entire Floyd era was a massive joke. All that hype for manlets draining each other on catchweights while at the same time Klitschko was achieving historic greatness going undefeated in HW division for 10 years, fighting legit contenders in their prime at their backyards and his style even if "boring" wasn't as "boring" as Mayweather's. And yes, Klitschko is a better boxer than Floyd, that can't be argued unless you're delusional and fell for the hype.

    Or take for example someone like Marco Huck, an extremely underrated and underappreciated fighter, if he was American he would be hyped beyond imagination.

    We have Usyk coming up who's the best talent in boxing right now.

    We have Tyson Fury, an extremely entertaining boxer with great skills and yet people don't give him the proper respect.

    175 division is also great with the Krusher.

    Personally I was never that much interested in lower weight classes and never understood all that hype for Floyd and Pacman. I want to see powerful boxers fight each other not some midgets, that's why I started watching boxing. Floyd and Pacman basically disgraced boxing with their pathetic drama and even more pathetic fight.

    It's about time that people start to focus on heavier divisions again.
     
  2. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis Vs Vitali Klitscho was the last of the great HW fights.

    While the HW division died, the lower weights (SMW, MW, SWW, WW, BW) kept boxing alive.Those were the only weights fans were interested in.
     
  3. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Boxing began with the Brits. When it came to America it was marketed better. America puts the most $$$ behind boxing and without us the sport evaporates into dust.

    Look at what the Amercan based UFC did for MMA. It was the ****ing Kumate at first. Now it is exclusively ran by Americans and it is a billion dollar business. Same with wrestling, football, baseball, hockey, basketball.

    $$$ rules everything. And don't you forget it. The HW divison dissolved because big guys Black, White, and Other made an easier living playing other sports.
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  4. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In Europe Klitschko's were by far the biggest stars of boxing and are household names.

    No one outside of hardcore boxing fans gave a **** about Floyd here or watched his fights, everyone watched Klitschko.

    Also, there were plenty of great HW fights. Huck vs Povetkin wasn't a great fight? And Fury vs Klitschko was still better than Floyd's fights. I don't like Wilder but his fights are always fun to watch too.

    I'd rather see "boring" HW fights than good fights bellow 160 because I respect the power and strength of HWs and I realize that they're the most prestigious fighters in boxing.
     
  5. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So why did Wilder go to boxing for money?

    It's not like you can just decide to go to boxing anyway. A lot of people start boxing so early in their life when they can't possibly know if they even have the physique of a heavyweight. And people who're doing other sports are doing them because they simply liked those sports more, not everyone wants to be a fighter. It was the same before.

    Also, there's more money in boxing than in any other sport as Floyd proved. If there was an American boxer in the HW division reigning as long as Wlad did he'd be one of the top 10 paid athletes.

    The reason why there aren't any Americans in HW boxing is because Eastern Europeans and also British proved to be better at this weight. Eastern Europeans rule the combat sports at this weight, take a look at wrestling and what Karelin did and even in MMA the GOAT of the sport is a Russian who fought at HW and beat everyone for 10 years.
     
  6. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It's just my opinion as a boxing fan, but I don't believe any of Vlad's fights came close to matching Vitali Vs Lewis.

    Different weights offer different flavors.
    For me, the middleweight division offers the power of the heavyweight division and the speed of the lower weights. So, skill wise MW and Super middleweight are the divisions I am most interested in.

    The US boxing scene has been affected over the last 20 years by US internal social and political conditions. Specifically, drugs, the prison complex, economics and easier paths to other sports, but mostly the first two issues.
    The proof is in Mayweather, and by contrast. Bernard Hopkins.
     
  7. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense. It's bigger in Europe by percentage fan support but the US just has a bigger population so there's more money in it by default.

    No one likes any of those dumb sports outside North America.

    Wrestling isn't even a sport, it's fake make-believe b/s.
     
  8. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :rofl:nut
     
  9. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They don't have the power of the heavyweight division. They look like regular guys, even guys like Golovkin. Heavyweights and cruiserweights have the proper fighter's physique. For me, those are real fighters. Let's face it, everyone would like to be a heavyweight.
     
  10. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The HW division is the elite division. Historically, it has always been the premier division.
    However, you have to be honest about the history of the sport.
    Lighter weights have always had their place in the hearts of boxing fans, since Sugar Ray Robinson and before.
    There are many classic boxing matches outside of the heavyweight division such as Hagler-Hearns and Pryor-Arguello to name just a couple.

    I think, with the current heavyweight picture you as a fan of heavyweights are in for a real treat. You are about to witness a whole slew of very competitive heavyweight fights. Lucky you. :good
     
  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People care about speed and skill and watching guys who are evenly matched in size fight. That is more entertaining and important than power for some people.
     
  12. PRINC£

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    Cruiserweight is one of the weakest divisions in the sport, why would ppl talk about it
     
  13. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    1. Heavyweight and Cruiserweight became so boring (Cruiser has never been that special) over the last decade.

    2. Prince Naseem Hamed is the reason for this. He became a huge star in the 90's and crossed over to America very successfully.
    Mayweather claims he was the one who brought the attention to the lower divisions, but it was undoubtedly Hamed.
     
  14. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Jab, jab, octopus grab= more skilled than Mayweather. lawl


    Some people simply don't know a god damn thing about boxing.
     
  15. PRINC£

    PRINC£ Guest

    :rofl:patsch

    Usyk better stay down at loserweight, Joshua would decapitate him in a round