Lower weight classes get too much attention at the expense of HW and CW divisions

Wlad is a better boxer than Floyd, some people life in fantasy P4P land.

At the end of the day if you put them in the ring together Wlad is the better boxer. I don't know why people always ignore this, heavyweights are the best boxers that's why heavyweight division was always the most prestigious.

Obviously you can give some guys P4P recognition for their skills but they aren't better boxers than heavyweights. Everyone in boxing is cutting weight to avoid heavyweights.

 

Cruiserweight is the best division in boxing at the moment. The most stacked division.

 

Like I said, some people don't know a God damn thing about boxing.. atschatsch:rofl:rofl

Not sure if this guy is trolling or serious.

 

The truth is, countries live in their own bubbles when it comes to boxing. If they haven’t got a dog in the fight, then they lose interest. This is especially true when it comes to mainstream.

You go over to the United States and they are still convinced that African-Americans dominate boxing and all they talk about is the welterweight division. When the truth is, they only have a 13% share of the belts (and not all AA), and most of those are in the lower divisions. And they really haven't got a clue about the bigger divisions.

Money is only to be made in America if they have a recognized champion. They are a unified country of 330 million. That is always going to trump a smaller country that is 5x smaller.

Americans also like to talk about how their athletes are making more money in American Football or Basketball. Yet none of these athletes make as much money as Chrstiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi. Football is the worlds biggest sport by a very long margin.

Football is absolutely HUGE in Europe. In England alone, a country of 50 million, there is over 95 proffesional soccer clubs. That is just ONE country. Yet the British right now have more belts than the United States. This doesn't also take into account that they have Rugby league and Rugby Union too and other sports.

Really there is no excuse.

Europe has a 50% share of the belts now and this is down to the growth of the sport in Europe. Naturally the bigger weight divisions get dominated by Europeans.

The Klitschkos have a $100 million fortune and packed out 50,000 arenas. Hell, Carl Froch picked up a $13 million purse infront of 90,000 fans at Wembley stadium in a domestic fight against Groves. So it's not like money cannot be made in Europe.

The fact is, the lower weight classes get more attention in the Americas. But only because they have a dog in the fight.

 

Klitschkos also have the best entrances in the business by far. The show they put on on their fights made May-Pac look incredibly small time.

 

What was said about P4P is true.

You put Klitschko in the ring with Mayweather, then Klitschko would knock him out through his block.

 

People said that Klitschko fought "weak" opponents during his reign but Mayweather wouldn't beat a single one of those opponents, while Klitschko would run through everyone Mayweather has ever fought in one night. Line them up and he knocks them all out. I'm just stating facts.

I understand that some sort of P4P recognition should have place in boxing but people have took that too far and it has come to a point where heavyweights (the best boxers in REALITY) are ignored and their success is played down while small guys like Floyd have become a face of boxing.

Klitschko was deliberately ignored by American boxing community, he was the biggest star in Europe and the true face of boxing in the 00s and early 10s. We'll see if Fury can take his place but if he dominates then he is the new face of boxing and not Canelo or GGG.

 

Brewster-Liakovich was a great fight.

 

And Huck vs Povetkin

 

Meh, sloppy IMO.

 

Hw, the "best boxers" holy facking ****e.
Obviously hw would be the hardest to beat for fighters from lower to much lower weights, but you're confusing talent and skill with physical attributes.

Best, does not equal=toughest to beat.
Joshua DW and fury hAve the hw titles, the only one of them that's remotely close in talent to the best boxers in the world is joshua.

Joshua is also the hardest to beat. The Klitschkos dominated the hw division for a decade. They did that against fighters on their level, above their level and below their level.

How could it be possible for the best boxer in the world lose some many times and to lose to a fighter at such physical disadvantages ruins your theory of either being close to the best boxers.

I think you are confusing toughest to beat with being the best. I do understand where you're coming from, because usually the toughest to beat is the best.

But in boxing there are so many different weight classes, so being the best cannot be who's the toughest to beat.. we also can't compare fighters of completely different physical builds.

We can't take the best fighters , like a ggg, spence or kovalev and say if they were 3,4" taller and 30,40 lbs heavier they'd whoop the he's. Because changing any fighters build would make them into a totally different fighter.

Can't take a hw kovalev against joshua, because now that Kovalev is a totally different fighter with different abilities.

All I see is, in boxing everything is relative, size,speed,power,chin, talent and skills. All relative to your build

 

Yes, that definition of P4P is borderline re****ed, I'm surprised people still ****ing use it. People in lower weight classes are more agile and quicker, of course they'll look better boxing skills wise, you cannot be a big guy and fight in that same style.

 

I just don't see many quality heavyweight fights.

Most heavies look awkward,clumsy with limited skills when compared to the smaller weight class. This wasnt always and I wish it was the case today.

I would love to see some quality heavyweight action.

 

Perfectly nailed it man!

The saddest thing is that we - the Wilder haters - gotta hope he get past Povetkin - for a clash with Fury to get himself enough exposure to set the american HW scene on the map once again for the casuals....

US casuals lost it with Holyfield and Tyson last century...

That's the only reason, with a great american heavy in the Klitschko-era we wouldn't have to read as much about the small divisions.

 

The HW division was boring for too long. It was dominated by two individuals who never fought each other. There are some intriguing fights to be made but the guy at the top, Fury, isn't entertaining inside the ring and Wilder looks like he'll duck Povetkin. I really like Usyk I'm just not sure he will be challenged for quite some years.