Lucas Brown just had a test is now clean

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  1. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Povetkin never tested dirty. He was below the limit.
     
  2. madballster

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    Really? So the level of scientific knowledge about for each drug is exactly the same? How difficult is that to understand? My god did every idiot on this forum fail highschool science classes? I'm not even asking about college.
     
  3. thesmokingm

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    There is no limit if you never tested positive before March 1 2016.

    lol, one side wants Povetkin to be dirty no matter what. The other side wants him clean. The truth is it's not up to either side. The irony is the side that wants him dirty ignores their side has a serious IV user in their midst. It's a bit two faced to declare Povetkin dirty when you're ignoring 750ml of IV cheating.
     
  4. Mexi-Box

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    Uh, yes there is. It's between 15 and 1. Under that, it's up to the sports league if they want to investigate is what I read.

    Here are the facts:

    1. Drug was recently banned
    2. Scientists don't know how long it takes to fully be expelled from the system.
    3. Someone took meldonium recently if he/she tests above 1.
    4. Povetkin was well under this limit.
    5. Investigation goes through
    6. Povetkin tests clean his next test

    Really, it's cut and dry. Povetkin didn't test dirty, and afterwards, he tests clean. We're talking about a drug that isn't that well researched. Anyone saying it's fishy that there was a spike doesn't know what they are talking about, period. I'm sure they know more than the experts, and the experts don't even know everything about it. :nut
     
  5. thesmokingm

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    You're reading what you want it seems?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/sports/wada-meldonium-drug-testing.html
     
  6. thesmokingm

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    When did Povetkin test positive?

    Before or after March 1??
     
  7. Gollywog

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    Francisco Vargas?
     
  8. thesmokingm

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    He was given a reprieve by CSAC not WADA. The sanctioning body can do what they please at the end of the day.


    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...dman-speaks-on-francisco-vargas-ped-situation

     
  9. Mexi-Box

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    I'm assuming for those cases before March the athlete would not be investigated and no positive would be given, hence not postponing an event or notifying anyone, etc. The athlete would just be tested again, which is why they wrote "delayed."

    In Povetkin's case, he's under this legal limit, but since it's after March, he's being investigated and the positive was announced. Since he's tested negative right after, there is no way he took meldonium recently.

    Yuliya Efimova had this same spike in meldonium traces, and her suspension was lifted.
     
  10. thesmokingm

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    I'm not trying to pick on you but you keep spouting this ****. There's no limit as it hasn't been established from any documentation yet for cases after March 1. Povetkin was popped after March 1, thus the positive.

    Second bold part, you don't know that nor does anyone else short of Pov himself. About the only thing going for him is to establish with WADA that their excretion duration times are too short.

    His case is still open and under investigation, but you obviously want to shut it and clear him of any wrong. :nut
     
  11. Mexi-Box

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    This is taken straight from their protocol on meldonium. This is under Results Management.

    d. If the concentration is between 1 µg/mL and 15 µg/mL and the doping control was undertaken on or after 1 March 2016.

    There is a limit set even after March 1st. You're posting a NY Times article instead of looking at the actual rules and thinking yourself an expert. :hi::nut
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    Again, you're reading what you want. You didn't read the rest did you? There is no language that states a limit where he is considered clean after March 1.

    Lemme repeat myself:

     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

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    ****en deformity doesn't get it.:nut:lol:
     
  14. Mexi-Box

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    Yes, I read the rest. What you don't understand is that this is there are rules for if the tests are conducted after March 1st. Otherwise, why the hell would they outline a plan for after March 1st!? :patsch:rofl

    At this point, YOU are reading what you want.
     
  15. Mexi-Box

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    The demographic likes to follow idiots. :nut