Lucas Matthysse seems overrated on paper

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Apr 28, 2013.


  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    It seems that most of this forum is hyping this guy up to be the most dangerous thing boxing has seen in the last 10 years. I looked at his record. He has a loss to a past his prime Zab Judah. Robbery or not, I heard it was a close fight. How does an elite fighter get taken to a close fight by an over the hill zab judah?

    He loses to Devon Alexander, again I heard robbery. I watched the fight. Thought Lucas won(close). However, Bradley beat Alexander a lot easier than Matthysse did.

    If anyone expects this guy Matthysse to compete with mayweather, they will be in for a rude awakening.
     
  2. captain

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    who even says matthysse competes with mayweather?
     
  3. elindiomonzon

    elindiomonzon Active Member Full Member

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    On paper maybe, but if you look at his las three fights you may come up with a different opinion.
     
  4. El Lucho

    El Lucho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    people like matt because he brings action fights hard, is a humble quiet guy with this certain killer instinct few have. all his fight are quality, yet he might not have floyd talent, but his fights are more fun to watch.
     
  5. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You base your assesment on having watched one losing effort and then comparing that to some other fight? Yep, that should work.
     
  6. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    believe me or not but Matthysse is the real truth at 140. Back then he was more patient in fighting ( judah and alexander fights ) and because of that, those fights looked as close fights. Right now Lucas bullies and tries to put constant punishing pressure in all rounds cuz he knows that if he don't stop his opponent, he won't get the decision in USA, regardless if he wins clearly the majority of the rounds.

    Wait his fight against Pederson and all his doubters will have an answer. Matthysse is a strong-boxer puncher with iron chin, iron will and good ring IQ.:yep
     
  7. dareo

    dareo Active Member Full Member

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    Can you explain how you think bradley is not an elite fighter he has a very good resume and is still undefeated ?
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You "heard" the Judah fight was a close fight?

    Don't just peek at the record, watch the man for ****'s sake. That will answer your questions and you can make your own judgment.

    Bradley is not elite? He has the best resume out of anyone at 140. Peterson, Holt, Alexander, etc. Matthysse managed to drop him where Bradley couldn't.

    Nobody seriously considers him a thread to Floyd. But they do consider him a threat to Peterson and Garcia and Khan, the other big names in the division.
     
  9. War-Lord

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    How in the hell is Bradley not an elite fighter?
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    bump, I was right about Matthysse
     
  11. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    people always hype the puncher. its always been the way and that wont change
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More like people were wrong about Garcia. Matthyse fought well; Swift fought just a bit better.
     
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Judah was a close fight, to me, though I thought Lucas won it. I didn't think the Alexander fight was close at all. :conf Garcia is a very fine B-level, to me, and so is Matthysse. Neither would stand much of any chance at all with Mayweather, in my opinion. I can't imagine why anyone would think they would have a good chance with him, really. I think both would match up with him pretty horribly. But they're damned good 140-pounders.

    You don't understand. If the favourite loses a fight it's always that he was overrated and absolutely never that the underdog was underrated. No one can be underrated. That's forum law. Everyone is overrated, no one is underrated. Unless you're a fan of someone and then they are underrated. It's complicated. Fax me for a copy of the full rulebook. I can't explain it all.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  15. kirk

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    I swear, people act because Lucas was beat by Danny in a competitive fight, that he is now somehow not a top tier fighter in the division.

    **** hasn't changed, Lucas is still the divisions badass, and that right hand that landed on Danny in the 11th would have KO'd just about every 140lber you could name.

    Lucas is still a beast, he just ran into the best fighter in the division.

    Was a good win by Garcia, its just funny how unreasonably far Matthysse's stock is falling after this loss.

    But, I suppose that comes with the territory when riding on such a high wave when it 'crashes'.